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Pulling the Plug on WiS

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#581 - 2012-12-12 18:54:19 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
They used the same basic example I gave as a means of saying, "this is what we'd like to see possible".
I never really expected it to happen though. Maybe 10 years from now, but at the time I was reading about it it was something I'd never even seen in a single player game outside of a CGI cutscene.


They're definitely gunning for the CGI cutscene. I believe that they meant "A Future Vision" quite literally.

I wouldn't mind that sort of standing-based reaction if it could be modified. It could be rather hard to do infiltration, or even to play a saturnine character, if everyone automatically wore their hearts on their sleeves.

And, with a tip of the hat to JJR, because I let myself get too exasperated in my replies to him and I shouldn't have, I wouldn't mind if they started with "rough" and refined from there. I was too hung up on trying to get across CCP's original goal of shooting the moon and sticking the landing. I think they would be well served by trying to get a successful rocket launch first.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#582 - 2012-12-12 21:15:50 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I can't say I've ever actually had a pleasant experience with collision detection in an MMO.

James 315 has Big smile

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#583 - 2012-12-12 21:25:44 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I can't say I've ever actually had a pleasant experience with collision detection in an MMO.

James 315 has Big smile

laughed my ass off.


Bravo sir, bravo.
Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#584 - 2012-12-13 00:00:16 UTC
Reading o.O New station environments! posts I came across Victor Maximus post who had a good idea with potential of expanding current WiS content simply by taking modular approach with future WiS content.

CCP already have tools to expand current WiS related content (Captain's Quarters) with some ideas from Victor Maximus.
Victor Maximus wrote:
I love the idea of expanding the station interior environments. We all spend our fair share of time within them, some more than most. A bit more life to them would be welcome.

If your going to re-do the interiors consider making a few versions, each a bit tailored to the different professions within eve. While just about everyone fly's ships daily there are plenty of other things we do that might be interior worthy.

If your an industrialist you might want a view of your production lines, either slowly building new ships or high speed lines pumping out modules. Some sort of central control panel where you can bring up the S&I window.

For the trader a market/stock style hub, frantic with activity. Similar control bringing up the market

There should defiantly be the hanger, showing your ship being re-supplied/re-armed .

You could have something with a more logistics/strategic feel , a strategy/command room of sorts. lots of maps.

A simple observation room (or better yet the docking control room) where you can look outside the station and watch ships dock/undock.

Sort of modular so you can slowly roll them out.

And in the same time CCP would get nice testing grund for WiS performance and present us more meaningfull content than Captain's Quarters giving us. CCP would go step by step with new content untill a moment that they feel is right for more action based and avatar involving WiS content.

Caldari Shipyard
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#585 - 2012-12-13 00:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sura Sadiva
Alexandar Pavlovic wrote:

CCP already have tools to expand current WiS related content (Captain's Quarters) with some ideas from


Can't be totally open WiS, in major hubs the system couldn't handle hundreds of avatar, have to be limited:

- Rent "WiS slots" in station to individuals or copropration with different avatars cap (5, 10, 15); will be an huge isk sink, that's good.

- Specific services: WiS slot to install gambling games room, black market/player driven store for specific products, new manifacturing, simply social areas, drug laboratories, new Research, corporation lobbies. All have to be new products/services.

- Remove the damned NEX store and normalize all the avatar related items moving them in the normal EvE production cycle and market system.

This as base step.
later: add WiS modules for PoS, so people can build like towns in space. These should be attackable accordingly with the system security level/war decs.


Edit: third step: Avatar exploration in DeD abbandoned structures, FW missions: sabotage and so on in FW outposts.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#586 - 2012-12-13 00:57:07 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Alexandar Pavlovic wrote:

CCP already have tools to expand current WiS related content (Captain's Quarters) with some ideas from


Can't be totally open WiS, in major hubs the system couldn't handle hundreds of avatar, have to be limited:

- Rent "WiS slots" in station to individuals or copropration with different avatars cap (5, 10, 15); will be an huge isk sink, that's good.

- Specific services: WiS slot to install gambling games room, black market/player driven store for specific products, new manifacturing, simply social areas, drug laboratories, new Research, corporation lobbies. All have to be new products/services.

- Remove the damned NEX store and normalize all the avatar related items moving them in the normal EvE production cycle and market system.

This as base step.
later: add WiS modules for PoS, so people can build like towns in space. These should be attackable accordingly with the system security level/war decs.


Edit: third step: Avatar exploration in DeD abbandoned structures, FW missions: sabotage and so on in FW outposts.


what, no planet landing?, i know EVE ships cant do it because of the Tritanium properties but hell, we should have invented some sort of planetary shuttle....
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#587 - 2012-12-13 00:58:47 UTC
Topic still alive and still kicking What?Shocked
Akai Kvaesir
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
#588 - 2012-12-13 01:45:22 UTC
What would be interesting is if they tied in WiS with the (hopefully soon!) idea of modular/scaled/whatever-its-being-called-now player-owned station revamp. Who cares about walking around Jita when you could walk around the station you just built. That would give CCP the legroom to prototype WiS without revamping NPC stations/creating artificial infrastructure (as the station modules or what have you could be whole packages from creation, not just tacked on after the fact).

Just a thought.

Also, CCP, you guys rock for not abandoning WiS, I want to explore outside of the safety of my ship.

Frogblast the Vent Core! When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#589 - 2012-12-13 15:22:46 UTC
Modular additions sound like a great way to test the water. Paying rent for a new module that holds multiple pilots seems good too.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#590 - 2012-12-13 15:32:45 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Topic still alive and still kicking What?Shocked


Yeah 4 ppl can really run a crusade

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And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#591 - 2012-12-13 23:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Topic still alive and still kicking What?Shocked


Yeah 4 ppl can really run a crusade

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how hard is it nowadays ,when you are not able to count,pls tell me.

On the other hand ,this thread should not be in here ,CCP should have told us from the beginning that Team Absent was a tinfoil hat.

But relax everybody ,we have our snowballauncher back ,so there is still put some meaningful stuff put back into FIS

R.S.I2014
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#592 - 2012-12-13 23:36:24 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
how hard is it nowadays ,when you are not able to count,pls tell me.


This. ^^

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#593 - 2012-12-14 01:59:59 UTC
Must say it's bad enough they pulled the plug after years of promises, but adding a "Key Pass to Open the Door" is salt in the wounds.
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#594 - 2012-12-14 04:21:31 UTC
I know I'm just absolutely setting myself up for disappointment, but I have a dream. A dream that next year at fanfest, someone somewhere on some stage will finish up their presentation, walk off on stage, walk back on, and say "one more thing."

Then, at that glorious moment, the lights will dim, a video will start, and we'll see an actual working WiS demo. Then at the end f the video, the screen will go black and all of a sudden we'll see "COMING 2013" on screen in ridiculously huge font.

Again, I'm well aware this would never happen, but by creating this alternate reality inside my head, I'm able to cope with day to day life as it is now knowing WiS may not arrive for years...

#eternallydisappointed
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#595 - 2012-12-14 04:56:57 UTC
Not a good news at all.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#596 - 2012-12-14 05:08:50 UTC
I am looking forward to having a mantlepiece on which to display various trophies and presents from CCP.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#597 - 2012-12-14 06:51:18 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
I am looking forward to having a mantlepiece on which to display various trophies and presents from CCP.


I just want a place to hang my corpses
and store the salt

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#598 - 2012-12-14 07:15:40 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
- Remove the damned NEX store and normalize all the avatar related items moving them in the normal EvE production cycle and market system.


So we finally can use the stuff harvested of PI for anything else then fuel... very good.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#599 - 2012-12-14 07:32:58 UTC
Good. Carbon sucked

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#600 - 2012-12-14 08:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Good. Carbon sucked


You mean this carbon?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=788


edit: Eg. The core parts of EVE.