Out of Pod Experience

apparently, Kerberos failed to do their homework when choosing a publishing company as these guys have a track record of this too:



The sheer amount of ass kissing apologists on the Paradox site that are trolling people with actual problems reminds me of here lol

Good example:



Funny thing is all the people that are buying the game DESPITE the face that its ******. Buying into the "release crap and patch it to launch readiness". This is why that practice will never go away: people will still buy the ****.

Yup. Either get a refund or if you have (a lot) of faith in Kerberos, wait a month or six before looking at the game again. There's potentially a great game in there, however, the main concern, IMO, is that if Kerberos released early due to financial pressure, then do they have the resources to actually finish the game?

Also, never, ever, buy a pre-order again.

yeah persuing that... theyre stringing us along. After telling us we'd get it on Monday, Monday, they said to "check back next week", then today I got an email saying "We're looking into other forms of compensation".

Its a rip off plain and simple and the fact that theyre still selling it as if it were a full game is flat out fraudulent now.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sword-of-the-stars-ii/players.html?tag=scoresummary%3Buser-score

lol user rating 3.4 (only that high cause one guy gave it an 8. Either he was a dev or lying out his ass to get it a better rating. The rest were 1s with a single 3).

I had not learned about the lack of a refund today.

Still, you could do this with one post, as opposed to forty.

They invented this newfangled concept called linking. You could have linked all of those posts. I would like to point out that Paradox has done this to all of their published games (except Sengoku) and within a month or two all of their games were absolutely fantastic.

You shouldn't say that Kerberos is trying to rip you off. Should they have released the game like this? No, but it is what it is. Don't buy it, and they will probably give you a refund in good time, you can talk to Paradox as well, by the way, regarding the refund.

I have read your replies, and saying that its a rip off and Kerberos is ripping you off are the same thing, but whatever, argue semantics if you wish.

Also, with regards to the second bit, yes, I realize you are apparently not getting your refund for some reason. I asked if you had spoken with Paradox, as they might also be able to accommodate you, realize that there are three people involved in this, Steam, PI, and Kerberos, so talking to them all about a refund (except Steam, who will just tell you to **** yourself) would probably help. Unless you've already talked to PI, then que sera sera.

Also please dont flame ME for being the messenger

Perhaps it is best to wait untill they fix it before upsetting yourself playing a buggy game...the irony of telling this to an EVE player suddenly hit me

Also:
Free DLCs until Nov 30th
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?568294-Free-DLCs-until-Nov-30th

Ugh, no. Play some more.
- AI can't budget and continually runs a deficit and generally crashes its economy
- drones don't work
- defense satellites aren't in the game (but you can research the tech for them)
- armor tech can be researched but no one can tell if armor upgrades are actually applied to ships
- no way to scrap ships
- the meteor swarm random creates a straight line of meteors traveling in formation. Speculation is that the meteors use ship/fleet AI.
- You may or may not be able to upgrade science stations
- Budget screen - the numbers may or may not be accurate, the sliders may or may not work as intended
- NPCs sometimes bring stations with them in fleets
- Diplomacy isn't in yet
- The Defense Manager screen may or may not work. No one is quite sure how it works.
- Attacking stations is iffy because the hit box prevents you from getting close enough for your short range weapons to work,
- You cannot add/design weapons (combat) modules for your stations,
- Ship refitting isn't implemented
- etc. etc. etc.

Tactical Combat, one of the Main Features of the game, is horrid. Ship AI (ship stances, pursuit, close, etc) sometimes works, it's really easy to time out the combat timer before finding the enemy, hell, I have yet to kill a ship despite having 7 CRs shooting at one hiver CR. The tactical combat interface is very clumsy and a huge step backwards compared to SotS 1. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of potential on SotS IIs combat, but it needs a *lot* of work.

tl;dr Most of the advertised features that make SotS II great are either not in the game, not implemented completely, or just implemented badly. The stability issues are just gravy.


Yes, months. Unfortunately, lots of months.

Seriously?
Theres a difference between buggy (I was expecting buggy, nothing doesnt follow the release **** and patch to ready later scheme) and ACTUALLY UNFINISHED

There are parts of the game missing. There are parts turned off because the game is a "mess of blown apart code"

It IS funny though, you wanna see the most hardcore of fanboying trying hard to stem the tide of anger go here:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?488-Sword-of-the-Stars-II
or here:
http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=37

Its actually getting funny as to how hard these guys'll get behind this game when its unfinished crap.
"Itll be great in six months"
lol
My main issue is theyre not selling it in six months, theyre selling it now.
and not telling anyone of course.
Thats fraud.

Also, the admirals thing is just a fully ******** "feature" to the game. They LIMIT the number of fleets you can have. OFC currently theres a bug where these dont work at all so the max youll ever have is four. Now imagine trying to defend a galactic sized civilization with four fleets.
One of the races' abilities to expand are directly linked to its ability to send ships out to construct gate networks. In tha last game, you could make as many ships as you wanted to do this. This game, four.
Thats akin to having a C&C sequel where you have to have a general with every group of tanks you wanna send out but them limiting these generals to a set number. In SOTS2 you have to have a lvl 4 Navy Yard to get a CHANCE for an additional Admiral to spawn.



Dont forget the ones they removed completely when they realized the code broke other things