EVE General Discussion

Oh and in the same devblog:

Sorry for my poor english but i don't understand, is CCP planing to give free SP to veteran ?!
Personnaly i can't and won't restat to learn BC V et Destro V on my "main" for some month (or need 2 free restat..), i'm certainly not alone and i don't understand why CCP should give free SP ? tears ?
EvE is not supposed to be hello kitty online, if free SP is given to a player just because he have already many SP, i prefer unsubscribe my accounts now..

Outrage.

What does sp have to do with it tbh. And why would you neeed restats. Do you think the purpose of eve is to obtain sp or something?

Whats the problem of a player getting "free sp" if that sp doesn't let them do anything they couldn't do before? SP on its own is meaningless, it is the abilities it allows that matter. In this case ccp is not nerfing a players abilities, but you want them to just so you don't have comparitively less sp (and only because you chose not to train the skill) even though the sp is adding nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I am training the skills as we speak to do this, I am just simply wanting to understand fully in detail about what's going to happen.

The blog I posted ( http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129 ) does show new "ship progressions" pics for each race further down... I guess I mistook that for skill progression on some level. The way the arrows line up with that is a tad bit confusing to me, so if someone could explain the ship line pictures better I might not be so confused on the subject :)

From what I've gathered, you'll only get the full levels trained get translated into the new skills.
Any overflow will either be reimbursed or lost.
We do not know which.
Maybe even CCP doesn't, yet.

On the old way the arrows are running across between the t2 ships as well as coming from the t1. So to be able to use a races 2 command ships command ship no longer requires battlecruiser 5, racial cruiser 5, racial frigate 4, hac 4, logistics 4, assault ships 4 and instead just needs racial battlecruiser 5. Whether it will need any of the prereqs for the above ships is unknown but at a guess the requirements would also lose at least some of long range targetting 5, signature analysis 5, weapon upgrades 5, mechanic 5, engineering 5, gunnery 2, electronics 2 and possibly only keep leadership 5 warfare link spec 4, spaceship command 5.

So to fly absolution and damnation;

NOW
Command ships 1, Battlecruiser 5, Amarr cruiser 5, amarr frigate 4, spaceship command 5, leadership 5, warfare link spec 4, logistics 4, hac 4, assault ships 4, signature analysis 5, long range targetting 5, mechanic 5, engineering 5, weapon upgrades 5, electronics 2, gunnery 2.

New system, minimal
Command ships 1, Amarr battlecruiser 5, Amarr cruiser 4, amarr frigate 4, spaceship command 5, leadership 5, warfare link spec 4.

A bit of a difference :)

I got bc 4 and im training it to 5 atm. However i was wondering if i dont make in time. Lets say if i got few days left to bc 5 on the day patch hits tq. Whats happens to those sp's? Do i get them back as free sp or do i got that few days left to all racial bc 5's or do those sp's between 4 and 5 go wasted?

Well, since I have all racial Frigate and Cruiser skills already trained at least to level 4 (Minmatar Frigate & Cruiser trained to level 5) along with Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills already trained to level 5, when the change happens I should then get all 4 racial Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills added to my character sheet at level 5 (fully trained).


Sounds like a 'Win Win' situation, at least from my viewpoint.

\o/



DMC

CCP has said that if you're partially through training BC IV to BC V, you will only get racial BC IV after the change, and the partial levels will not transfer.

They don't have that particular picture I posted though... not in high quality... they only have the old trees