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Best sub-cap ship isk/hour against Blood Raiders
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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-21 04:24:56 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
GIGANTIC damage projection

http://imgur.com/IxvfP


youre fitting your mach HORRIBLY wrong if you only get 900 odd dps.
gets more like 1300.

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Crash Lander
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-11-21 05:00:22 UTC
The answer is pretty simple: the best of all worlds. Omni tanked nightmare with a deadspace MWD (this is the only part that MUST be pimped because of the -%cap pentalty of MWDs).
On paper you end up with somewhere around ~1:10s of cap (*gasp!) with everything on. In practice you have about 5 minutes of buffer because you'll be pulsing modules.
BUT (and this is a big but), If you know how to fly your ship everything will be dead before your cap hits 30% and you'll be at the next gate.

In a couple of missions you drop the MWD for another Cap recharger simply because if you head for the gate when you start you'll be at the gate before everything is dead so why waste a slot.

Note: this is not for the light-hearted. Forget to turn off that booster or MWD and you will drain yourself fast. If you are that type fit a cap boster or ASB but that kind of defeats the purpose):

[Nightmare, PvE]
Damage Control II/Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

A-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy MF
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy MF
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy MF
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy MF
[AUX HIGH SLOT] Remote Repper for Drones
[AUX HIGH SLOT] Auto Targeting System II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I or Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

5x Light Drone
5x Medium Drpnes

if you are brave replace the DCII with one more HS or tracking computer. Find a setup that works for you. For killing Sansha and BR without using ammo or charges as fast as humanly possible, I doubt you can do much better.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-11-21 06:57:24 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
GIGANTIC damage projection

http://imgur.com/IxvfP


youre fitting your mach HORRIBLY wrong if you only get 900 odd dps.
gets more like 1300.

t1 ammo, no implants

I should buy an Ishtar.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-11-21 06:59:05 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Gabrielle Lamb wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
GIGANTIC damage projection

http://imgur.com/IxvfP


Nice job comparing a ship that does 100 M/S to a ship that does like 700 with AB and often fits MWD to do 1500++?

nice job pointing out something completely irrelevant.

Except in any mission where the gates or rats are a distance away, and the faster you close, the faster you get to do more damage. Also: blitzing.

except OP is not interested in missions.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#25 - 2012-11-21 14:47:16 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
except OP is not interested in missions.

Exactly... Which it seems almost nobody read.

Theorycraft all you want, it's more about personal preference at this point.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#26 - 2012-11-22 06:18:59 UTC
Armor machariel is going to be the easiest thing to use here. It'll have the highest natural resists available to a ship that can still apply the wtf amounts of dps that come from a pirate BS and deal the correct damage type.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-11-23 00:41:52 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Armor machariel is going to be the easiest thing to use here. It'll have the highest natural resists available to a ship that can still apply the wtf amounts of dps that come from a pirate BS and deal the correct damage type.

unfortunately, armor tanking is in a place where even against sansha, a shield tank performs equally well in practice. you basically have the choice between 3 tracking enhancers and a 4slot shield tank and 4 tracking computers and a 3slot armor tank.

I should buy an Ishtar.
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