Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I know this change would never force a dedicated hisec bear who doesn't want to leave hisec to leave hisec, I believe that I could become a hauling bear if this change was added. Encourage more pvpers to do pve that is effected by pvp, so pvp actually has a incentive.

I think that their are already a number of critical items that can't be easily moved that are exclusive to certain areas. Namely ice which is required for pos's which are a cornerstone of eve industry and warfare.

Not to mention datacores and the like along with navy faction ships which have seen a recent boost to use with the recent vomiting of them onto the market caused by FW plexes. Also market forces that might have occurred in certain areas but had effects that quickly spread to others would now have more localized effects. With most null alliances using jita to buy ships to sell in their own space it would be reasonable to assume that jita would have substantially higher prices than other places that could not be as easily filled by people dropping off a freighter full of drakes.

Also different empires do have different ores that spawn that could cause subtle changes to mineral prices that would be worth exploiting far more than they currently are.

Not to mention that this change would have immediately positive effects without major changes to industry right away although it may be recommended that this eventually happen. With the upcoming POS revamp a industry revamp will probably also happen making it the perfect time to implement this change, which to be honest will be a relativly low effort one since they have already added regions in the past, the main problem is the "why" in eve lore.

So did i understand that correct, you want that there is no possible option to move from Empire 1 to Empire 2 without crossing Lowsec?

IF yes, then it sounds not bad at first, but only at first.

Currently if you look around in Low Sec and also 0 sec its around 95% of time the same "old story". Some wannabe pirates sitting around at stations, near gates in belts or another place somewhere in the system.

So the wannabe pirates sitting at the gates are doing what? Exact Gate Camping nothing else, the Wannabe Pirates at stations do what? Exactly Station Camping nothing more nothing less.

So tell me how should a new player who played weeks to get his first Iteron now move through low sec? He would be shot out of his Iteron within Seconds and after that shot out of his pod, and then? Doi you really think a new player will play again weeks to buy another iteron for exactly the same **** ?

And really i dont find many "real pirates" here in eve, most of them call themself a Pirate but are only some wannabe pirates who only wanna gank other people until they quit the game or play the game as they want.
So tell me whats the reason for a so called "pirate" to destroy a empty Iteron from a new player? What does this pirate get from this kill?

As long as we have here in eve more wannabe pirates then pirates this cannot work. It could work, if those wannabe pirates become real pirates, pirates who really must work to get a good target, who must hunt it down with the risk to get caught by some police or mercs or anything else.

Currently this wannabes have a easy life, sitting at gates cloaked and waiting until something moves in that cant shoot back.

Also why its important that the pilot is podded too? why you must destroy the ship? Why not ask for ISK so the other player can pay to survive?`

REally i like your idea , but without some changes it cant work, also one of the changes must be some sort of defense options for the freighters, currently a freighter is slow has 0 defense options and 0 offensive options and thats something that must be changed too for your idea, if not, then its only more easy targets for wannabe pirates.

Cause really no one will move through low sec for a higher profit if he or she know that there is nearly 0 chance to survive this. And thats currently for freighter pilots most of the time a fact.

And removing Gate guns for what? To make it easier so anyone without knowledge of eve can become a wannabe pirate?

If piracy should become more profitable it also must be more risk.
Many people complain that high sec is to secure and toooo much isk to make, so now i tell you, if piracy shoudl become more proftiable with changes from ccp so that people must fly through low sec then piracy must become more risk.

Buffing Freighters would be a option, making it impossible for 1 ship alone to scramble a freighter as example the obelisk.
Or giving the freighters some offensive abilities and slots (not for big guns or such things but for some Target unlockers or boosters).
Adding some sort of Buff to the freighters so they can align faster and are faster at warp.

Yes sure that would make piracy harder but if all people must fly through low sec you also get more targets.

your idea wont have the consequences you hope to achieve.

Perhaps you should consider posting with your main char, as a npc corp char wouldn't last 10 mins gate camping in the manner your suggesting he would be, while attempting to "pirate".

gate guns should stay as is.

one of the primary reasons people avoid low sec is because of the "everything must burn" attitude on the low sec side of the gate.

Also the differences in certain commodities can't be to different from each other in different empires. If certain ores were more expensive in area's it may stunt industry. Although mineral costs for ships could be edited along with the quantity of the respective regions ore types so that the ships would cost less to build in the home empires. So instead of moving simple ore your moving entire ships making things more interesting and encouraging freighter travel over blockades runners.

Of course my industry knowledge is more limited so if someone who is familiar with building ships in high security space could elaborate on this idea more that would be nice.

Perhaps this would also have the effect of fostering null industry without making any changes because now you can't get everything from jita at a premium making imports slightly harder but not impossible, adding incentives.

No just don't pack your iteron full of loot and go into lowsec. Lowsec is easily capable of being traveled in a frigate/shuttle.

I think a bigger divide between Caldari/Gallente and Amarr/Minmatar High Secs would be good. That said, The allies would maintain a close link with one another. Amarr/Caldari and Minmatar/Gallente would still be connected by High Sec. I also see no reason why there would not be a link between Amarr/Gallente and Caldari/Minmatar that was still High Sec.

You should still be able to travel from Jita to Dodixie, or Amarr to Rens, via highsec. But it should be a massive journey. That would make the shortcut through Low Sec much more attractive. If I had to make 35 to 40 jumps to get from one hub to the other, or 8 or 10 including a couple through Low, I would grab myself a Cloaky Transport Ship and head on through low and cash in.

Well with the high storage amounts of freighters sending one afk in one direction would most likely be the best option for trade so very little would change if we made the safe trade routes longer.

IMO this change should be done if CCP revamps industry, and with the pos revamp industry will probably be overhauled.

If this change does happen the chaos that would ensue would be fun and hopefully what would emerge if a vibrant meaningful pvp rich lowsec, with a more dynamic high security space economy, a increased level of immerision, more people to lowsec and faction warfare, would help nullsec industry get off the ground if a industry rebalance does happen by reducing the competitiveness of jita as a market, help break apart jita from the server strainning unnessecery super hub that it is,bring meaning to being -10, possibly have more financial incentive to pvp, possibly bring back cargo hauler caravans, and weaken the power of individuals to cause market ripples eve wide due to less homogenous and interdependent trade hubs.