EVE General Discussion

It wouldn't matter if there was no Auto Pilot. You would never bump someone to 200 km of a gate.
Align to 72 m/s (that's my warp speed on a Providence - it will vary) and punch warp. You can't bump me according to Test server.

Evade is Evade. CCP can decide what it means. I don't have any say on that.

I don't know.

If real physics applied then the frigs would just bounce off the larger ships

But the whole 747 and Cessna thing doesn't apply because we are talking about objects in space. I mean the Earth doesn't move everytime its hit by an asteroid does it?

Of course we are talking about a physics engines of submarines. I don't know if submarines bounces. I think they collide and then sink, but the point of the matter is we are talking about the use of the game mechanic to do abuse in hi sec.

Arguably most of the player in EVE are hi-sec players therefore if CCP wants retention of people who buy lots of plex's to fly these enourmous freighters.


But then there is the CCP conspiracy to see as many ships blow up as possible without player's quitting so they'll buy more plex?

I don't know. I think i'd rather have the group griefs cry more because they have tastier tears when the tables are turned on them so lets remove bumping.

CCP, Remove Auto Pilot.

Goons dual Box an AFK pilot in Uedama to stop an AFK pilot from flying through Uedama. While they run Anoms in Deklein, the single account player is supposed to ATK jump his freighter through 18 systems. Rather than get in to the whole AFK war, force ATK for both of them. If they want to ATK camp freighters in Uedama, they can. ATK. On the gate.

Adding insult to injury I can picture an AFK Fleet bonus Alt sitting in Deklein while his alt monitors for Auto Pilot freighters in Uedama.

I'd also like a rare Implant to add resist to Hull. Give it to Null sec only Incursion runners. One per Incursion, 50% drop rate. Anyone in HS crazy enough to buy it, go for it.

A couple questions about the freighter being bumped for two hours:

1. Was the ship on auto pilot?
2. Was the freighter aggressed to keep it from logging out?
3. What was the value of the cargo?
4. Is here an API verified kill mail?
5. Why hasn't CCP removed rig penalties?
6. Did the freighter pilot attempt to convo the bumpers?

Test server made it up.

I couldn't bump a freighter on Buckingham. I used a Condor, I used a Phoon. Thhey bounced off and the providence freighter was not impacted by bumps.

Everything I am writing is based on a test server test.

If the test server has different mechanics, that's some sleezy stuff. I don't quite think that's the case though. I am assuming the Test server isn't a sleezy rope a dope to get people to make mistakes. I am assuming the Bump Mechanic is a red herring for something else. Because while I am certain CCP have nothing to gain from playing up false mechanics, I am certain Goons would have no problem playing that game.

Had the phoon at 2000 M/S

It was down last check. Only other ship I can try is a 100MWD fit cruiser to get overdrive thrust but that still doesn't explain why a 2K phoon had no effect on the freighter.

Trying to talk about the numbers to make it effective when there is no adequate explanation for why it happens in the first place is kind of pointless. You can't really justify why ramming another ship doesn't simply do damage, bumping makes as much sense as max velocity.

Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

The Typhoon is still fairly small. Try a Machariel. It's twice the size, has more mass & moves faster by default. A 100MN SFI is also great.

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.