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New AGRO AI system is stupid and why...
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Ahn Tee Mahtur
#41 - 2012-11-28 12:06:30 UTC
Random question but still on-topic about New AI, will the enemies change or multi-target fleet members who are logistics or those who don't do damage in general? Will the new Ai attack my noctis/logistics ship for the lulz? If so, this Ai needs to go.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#42 - 2012-11-28 15:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Ahn Tee Mahtur wrote:
Random question but still on-topic about New AI, will the enemies change or multi-target fleet members who are logistics or those who don't do damage in general? Will the new Ai attack my noctis/logistics ship for the lulz? If so, this Ai needs to go.


Just tried this out on Buckingham to get a good idea of how it will work.

Primary account Mach: standard mission fit, with 5 medium rep drones.
Alt account Scimitar: standard fit no Local reps

Took full room agro in Gone Berserk then I warped in the scimitar, Approximately 30 seconds later the cruisers that had not been killed switched aggro to the scimitar. Primary account’s Overview showed the agro switch with the standard Yellow box and I assigned the medium rep drones to help with the scimitars tank. Approximately 1 minute in one of the BS rats switched agro to the scimitar so I switched my fire to that BS and melted it pretty quick as soon as it died all BS agro switched to the scimitar. I continued to run through the rats, nearest first, and worked my way up. (Frig spawn aggro’ed the mach not the rep drones) site was completed in 6 minutes with no loss of drones, and full shields on the scimitar and the mach.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Ahn Tee Mahtur
#43 - 2012-11-28 20:32:00 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
Ahn Tee Mahtur wrote:
Random question but still on-topic about New AI, will the enemies change or multi-target fleet members who are logistics or those who don't do damage in general? Will the new Ai attack my noctis/logistics ship for the lulz? If so, this Ai needs to go.


Just tried this out on Buckingham to get a good idea of how it will work.

Primary account Mach: standard mission fit, with 5 medium rep drones.
Alt account Scimitar: standard fit no Local reps

Took full room agro in Gone Berserk then I warped in the scimitar, Approximately 30 seconds later the cruisers that had not been killed switched aggro to the scimitar. Primary account’s Overview showed the agro switch with the standard Yellow box and I assigned the medium rep drones to help with the scimitars tank. Approximately 1 minute in one of the BS rats switched agro to the scimitar so I switched my fire to that BS and melted it pretty quick as soon as it died all BS agro switched to the scimitar. I continued to run through the rats, nearest first, and worked my way up. (Frig spawn aggro’ed the mach not the rep drones) site was completed in 6 minutes with no loss of drones, and full shields on the scimitar and the mach.



still seems a bit backwards. defeats the purpose of "smart" missioning and just makes it more blitz-like. Not my cup of tea/coffee mate.
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#44 - 2012-11-28 21:15:06 UTC
Well I cant say as to the Noctis, but the new salvage drones cleaned up the field in about 5 minutes after I finished the site (started them to work as soon as the last wave spawned).

I am sure there will be some changes we will all have to adapt to but I see many benifits to the new system that has yet to become evident to the more, Ummm 'Creative' types in EVE. IE: having to figure out how to fit the Mission tank on a gank ship cant wait to see those tears.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Cambion Andedare
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-12-03 10:05:36 UTC
I'm running L3 missions in a Myrmidon now, and just started using T2 drones. However, if i lose a few of those during a mission, i lose ISK instead of making some...
Not sure what to expect...
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