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A complaint about the crimewatch changes.
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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-27 19:57:30 UTC
An experienced player will be able to use these new mechanics easily. A noob won't, can flipping in its old form was one of the best ways to introduce new players to solo pvp.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#22 - 2012-11-27 22:51:03 UTC
Commander Ted wrote:
An experienced player will be able to use these new mechanics easily. A noob won't, can flipping in its old form was one of the best ways to introduce new players to solo pvp.



LoL. Can flipping in its old form was one of the best ways to introduce new players to how-to-get-ganked, and frustration by losing their barely-afforded first decent pve ship, or mining boat. P


Simply forming a fleet with a person was (and really still is) the best way to introduce new players to pvp and practice.

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#23 - 2012-11-27 23:25:01 UTC
Speaking as someone who fleeted up a dude who complained that he had a mission in lowsec, and got him on comms and everything and scouted him through the gate, then shot him down...and had a matter-of-fact discussion on comms with the dude as to why he should never trust anyone in lowsec. Changes to crimewatch won't alter that.

Speaking as a guy who got his 3 days old noob corpie to jetcan mine around a dude in a Wolf who was can flipping, then used an Execquror on an alt "mining" in hisec to provide neutral RR, which resulted in turning my corpie evil and eventually into one of the Tusker's most prolific pirates (recently), I cannot really see how the Crimewatch changes will really stop this happening more often. In fact, this should occur more often precisely because of the changes. Which is awesome for noobs.

Remember, every noob you lure into lowsec to educate and make them sign off in frustration, there's a noob you can educate and turn them into an evil monster.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#24 - 2012-11-28 00:22:31 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Who the heck jetcan mines now anyways? Most mining ships have a large enough internal ore hold that jet canning isn't worth it.

I still see folks mining with the mining cruisers (Osprey and Vexors) and still jetcanning. And over a period of time longer than needed to get into a retriever. I've never asked them why they haven't gone with a barge.


Aren't those ships are losing their mining bonus?

The new crimewatch system is pretty awesome.... now, instead of dealing with a noob in a mining vessel, you get to flip the universe, and run/fight like crazy...
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-11-28 09:29:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Commander Ted wrote:
A few years ago as a noob in a terrible corp I wanted to pvp. Being with terrible players that I like forced me to teach myself to pvp. Grabbing my trusty rifter I went around the local neighborhood of hek and started can flipping. Great fun lots of fun kills and deaths for a 2 month old noob. Those days are behind me, however when I tried to get my RL friend into eve Low Sec pvp was far to difficult for his non PC master race minds to handle for the time being. Of course I decided I teach them to do what I did to start off and can flip and we enjoyed much sucess and my friend got two battlecruiser kills with his incursus on his first night. Sadly, he could not continue to play for RL reasons.

Now I would like to ask why CCP? Why are you nerfing can flipping? Carebears know the risks involved in pooping their ore and pay accordingly. If anything it gives noob miners a first taste of pvp.


CCP = Protecting the stupid, rewarding the lazy.

maybe you confused goonswarm and CCP?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-11-28 09:33:31 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
why he should never trust anyone in lowsec.

i don't know about you but personally i'm above betraying. so i could be the one person in EVE someone can trust Cool

However you right: it's more easy to not trust. Because Eve Online community.... you know.... Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Johnny Twelvebore
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#27 - 2012-11-30 13:59:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Twelvebore
Trinkets friend wrote:

Speaking as a guy who got his 3 days old noob corpie to jetcan mine around a dude in a Wolf who was can flipping, then used an Execquror on an alt "mining" in hisec to provide neutral RR, which resulted in turning my corpie evil and eventually into one of the Tusker's most prolific pirates (recently), I cannot really see how the Crimewatch changes will really stop this happening more often. In fact, this should occur more often precisely because of the changes. Which is awesome for noobs.

Remember, every noob you lure into lowsec to educate and make them sign off in frustration, there's a noob you can educate and turn them into an evil monster.


I believe that 3 day old noob was me, might even try to get the sec status up a bit to get into high and try this stuff out. Are you still in a wh tf? Might come for a short holiday with you if so?

Bloody hell, another eve blog! http://johnnytwelvebore.wordpress.com
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