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Being a (-10) pirate is boring.

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-11-16 15:26:42 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Nice to meet you :-)

Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice

I looked at all the carriers and i couldnt figure out which one you meant.

Did you mean the Archon?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

flakeys
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-11-16 15:27:22 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
I personally know NOONE that regrets even one podkill. Hell - most pirates would pod themself - AND punch little kittens in the face.

Post with your main or GTFO :-)


Mmmm well , i didnt want to pod kill that dude yesterday because we had an OP going on wich required me to be able to fly through 1.0 in a big ship.But then he jumped to a safespot and stayed there for 5 minutes while i was thinking 'your ships down gtfo of low-sec dude '.

Needless to say i scanned him out to show him that it was not a 'safespot' and podded him in the hopes he learns from it.And then i couldn't go on the OP any more.Wich should learn me once again , do not touch the pod even if you rrrrrrrrreally want to.

So now you know someone who regrets having made a podkill ....

On the topic , been -9.9 a few times in my eve career and i HATE grinding sec stat back up so now just occasionally jump into low again but try to keep my sec stat above -2.5 if possible.


Nice to meet you :-)

Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice


Nice to meet you too , and though i did a lot of things double/tripple i hardly seen it all.Could name a shitton of things i did but there's stil SO much in eve to be discovered.Never lived in a wormhole for example ...

That's the great thing about eve , you're never done learning and there's so many people you can help to see the potential of the game Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

flakeys
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-11-16 15:28:44 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Nice to meet you :-)

Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice

I looked at all the carriers and i couldnt figure out which one you meant.

Did you mean the Archon?


He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......




Man i love momma jokes .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-11-16 15:32:00 UTC
flakeys wrote:
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......

Man i love momma jokes .

When i get home tonight me and your mother are going to have a serious talk about your attitude

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-11-16 15:33:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
Generals4 wrote:
Tiggerban wrote:
Its not eve hard mode, its not fun, and its definitely not worth it.

More and more I see my fellow negative 10 pilots slowly resign themselves to raising their sec status back to positive because being -10 conveys absolutely nothing to the eve experience.



You do realize negative security statuses aren't there to add content but rather to punish you for criminal acts?


I dunno, having to suddenly deal with being hunted by NPCs when I went above a certain security level counters as adding "content." Going from ignoring frig camps in lowsec to having to dodge them like in null seems like added content.

Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
Or roam, which currently is pretty uneventful but likely will get more interesting with retribution FW and crimewatch changes

It's probably going to have the opposite effect. Now that FW has been money-nerfed, activity is probably going to shrink to just a sliver of what it was during the peak plexing months.

I guess that means no more stabbed Incursus kills.


And yet bears will still claim all of lowsec is insta-death camps because they flew a hauler through Rancer/Amamake that one time.
flakeys
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-11-16 15:33:32 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
flakeys wrote:
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......

Man i love momma jokes .

When i get home tonight me and your mother are going to have a serious talk about your attitude



Dad ? Did you buy yet another toon on the character bazaar?



Ow i'm SO grounded now ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

G01kur Kisel
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-11-16 16:00:34 UTC
According to fanfest 2012, if they chose to implement the changes they mentioned there they said that you wont be able to get -10 if you explode ships only if you pod kill. That way you will still be able to access highsec and still be a pirate more or less. Not sure if that would put back som fun for you or not but at least something.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-11-16 16:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kristopher Rocancourt
Skippermonkey wrote:
flakeys wrote:
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......

Man i love momma jokes .

When i get home tonight your mother and I are going to have a serious talk about your attitude


^^ Cockney slang deciphered into proper English.

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-11-16 18:28:19 UTC
Tiggerban wrote:
Its not eve hard mode, its not fun, and its definitely not worth it.

More and more I see my fellow negative 10 pilots slowly resign themselves to raising their sec status back to positive because being -10 conveys absolutely nothing to the eve experience.




Because there's no serious consequence or advantage for the choices you've done at some point.

Actually getting -10 it's as easy as taking some alts in shuttles and pod kill them all with smartbombs. Yay....important stuff...

As easy as it is to camp some gate with other friends and kill everything passing through without much of consequence than get a couple shots on your shields easy/fast remote while waiting for the next one jumping in to activate your guns.

Then what? - nothing, you can move in high sec without serious consequences, you can even buy battleships and get them by yourself in to low sec without loosing them (unless other organised players shoot at you), you can board whatever ship and gank with exactly same Concord response than someone else...so what's the point?

What's the point of being -10 player? (none)
Does it gives some sort of hidden buff or advantage? (none)
Serious consequences?- lol consequences yes, serious consequences no.

brb

Tornado Bait
2 Canadians 1 Jar
#50 - 2012-11-16 18:57:18 UTC
I agree that some people like -10 life as it stands now.

The point of my post was to relay basically how I am feeling about low sec and -10 living now after having been here for more than a year and a half.

more and more it turns into probing mission runners or using arty tornado's on people on station, and I am sure that gets some people off. However for me Its getting old.

Roaming 30 jumps for pvp just burns people out especially if you don't end up finding anything or die.

The grey area for pvp is shrinking considerably and now its either big blobs going at it or playing lets gank the raven doing missions.

Boring.

Also i don't consider people who camp gates with smartbombing bs or camping gates with 20 absolutions 5 guardians and assorted t3's to be pirating in sense of the word i'm refering to.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#51 - 2012-11-16 19:08:00 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
flakeys wrote:
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......

Man i love momma jokes .

When i get home tonight your mother and i are going to have a serious talk about your attitude


^^ Cockney slang deciphered into proper English.




The 'I', should have been a capital. Just saying.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#52 - 2012-11-16 19:18:56 UTC
Tornado Bait wrote:

Also i don't consider people who camp gates with smartbombing bs or camping gates with 20 absolutions 5 guardians and assorted t3's to be pirating in sense of the word i'm refering to.
That's your opinion. But if you are killing, ransoming and making money at it, it's pirating. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Irya Boone
The Scope
#53 - 2012-11-16 19:37:08 UTC
i see What you did there OP

Grats for your -10 sec status ... ohh it was'nt the purpose of the thread ... sorry My bad!!!

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#54 - 2012-11-17 06:16:58 UTC
I vote -10 status causes a random chance to gate gun.

Gate guns should be able to move around system and also across systems. Gate guns that are outnumbered can call for reinforcements.

A Pirate who has repaired his sec and is running missions in high sec should have a random chance of a gate gun uncloaking next to him and ganking him.

Also, gate guns should occasionally float down the captains quarters gangplank and start messing **** up in your quarters.

Katrina Oniseki

SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-11-17 06:26:27 UTC
Not going to lie, I have no clue about sec status as I spend all my time in a place where it doesn't matter.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#56 - 2012-11-17 08:12:03 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Not going to lie, I have no clue about sec status as I spend all my time in a place where it doesn't matter.



This.

Sec hits was what happened when the other guys made a break for it, thinking the gate guns in .2 would discourage me.
Shae Vizl'a
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-11-17 10:34:03 UTC
What do you think about a black market only accessible by special lowsec with things for pirates? accessible from -5 security status when the high sector becomes impossible to practice. Which will permit him to buy ships and fit directly from the hight sector into the station in lowsec.

To supply the market, the seller put their stuff high sector in a new category on the market (black market) with the black market skill.

this is just an idea.

(I use google translation sorry for that)

[u]English is not my natural language.[/u]

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-11-17 14:01:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
I wonder about current status of NPC null. Of course, I understand why you don't like sov null, but isn't NPC null like lowsec plus bubbles minus security status being issue?

Ok, I know that people there tend to fly in gangs not everyone would call "small", but does it mean that there's no place for someone who don't join those organizations?

Shae Vizl'a wrote:
To supply the market, the seller put their stuff high sector in a new category on the market (black market) with the black market skill.

A skill that gives you ability to reduce your customer base from "everyone" to "outlaws only"? Not sure anyone would bother with that.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#59 - 2012-11-17 18:10:31 UTC
Thread cleaned of a truly disturbing troll and the posts that quoted it.

I know people get inflamed by such posts but feeding a troll will not help and it's also breaking the rules.
Please use the report button!

Thanks.

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Joseph Dreadloch
Dread Space Inc.
#60 - 2012-11-17 20:43:44 UTC
If I could magically overhaul EVE online my first change would be this:

Get rid of the current 'sec status' system and replace it with more of a traditional 'faction' system that has become popular in other MMO's these days. If you're a carebear you'll find yourself in highsec under the protection of concord, taking missions to fight pirates, or fending off belt rats as you mine. Essentially what you have now.

If you're a pirate you'll find yourself in lowsec without being engaged by NPC pirates. I mean a capsuleer ally would be extremely useful to the Guristas or Serpentis wouldn't it? You can take missions from your new pirate bros and blow up DED facilities and get separate rewards from the pirates instead.

You could have awesome pirate missions from the serpentis in which you need to smuggle drugs into highsec. They could give you some forged clearance papers that only last 10 minutes once you enter highsec, but you'd still be -10 and open to getting blown the **** up by other players.

Basically I feel that instead having -10 being a punitive thing, it should simply be the opposite end of the scale to 5.0. Outlaws should receive content that Carebears don't the same way Carebears get content the Outlaws don't. This all ties in with my views of how Lowsec is currently 'broken'.