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What I see coming from the new bounty system....

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#101 - 2012-11-16 12:23:47 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
But you know that is logical. And it still will not stop the 12 year olds from doing exactly that. Hey look at that guy flying around with a 200 M bounty lets get him....LMAO!

Isn't that the whole point?

Oh god.
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#102 - 2012-11-16 12:27:13 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Valerie Tessel wrote:
The bounty system won't give a profit motive to the gankers as it will still be unprofitable to kill in hisec without a kill right.



Wrong.

A fleet of DPS destroyers, after insurance payouts, is super cheap. The bounty doesn't have to be especially large to make it profitable to gank that hulk/mack/orca/freighter.


The lack of profit is on the side of the person placing the bounty.... unless placing bounties is (and it will be) used as a blackmail tool against carebears.



Insurance after suicide ? welcome to like a year ago...
Herr Hammer Draken
#103 - 2012-11-16 12:35:20 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
But you know that is logical. And it still will not stop the 12 year olds from doing exactly that. Hey look at that guy flying around with a 200 M bounty lets get him....LMAO!

Isn't that the whole point?


Oh but it gets even betterTwisted Then these same players will start threads about why didn't I get all the bounty from that kill?
He had 200M bounty on him. I lost a 100 million ship killing the guy and I only got 10M in bounties? WTF?
Never mind that threads like this have been posted for an entire month before the roll out of retribution.

You are going to have lots of whine coming to the forums after DEC 4th.

No matter how much CCP does to inform the masses of what is coming in retribution.

Real life is just too rich to be made up! Twisted

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#104 - 2012-11-16 12:40:33 UTC
Well yeah, but they'll soon figure it out. When they do, they'll probably decide suicide ganking is a lot of fun. The bounty will cover the cost of ship replacements and the tears cost you nothing.

Oh god.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#105 - 2012-11-16 12:41:05 UTC
Is it me or does the OP just sound butthurt?

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#106 - 2012-11-16 12:41:38 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Well yeah, but they'll soon figure it out. When they do, they'll probably decide suicide ganking is a lot of fun. The bounty will cover the cost of ship replacements and the tears cost you nothing.


Finally someone speaks out the reason for the up-upcoming bounty nerf Big smileBig smileBig smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#107 - 2012-11-16 13:44:32 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Let me put it that way...and keep in mind it is only an example:

Oh look a miner with 40 Mio bounty on his head.
Oh look, a Mackinaw with empty mids but T2 stripminers…..200.000.000 - 210.000.000 Mio ISK
Oh look two T2 blaster fitted Catalysts…................................................................30 Mio ISK
Oh look the game mechanic:
Quote:
The bounty payout is based on a percentage of the Total Loss, so the bounty received will always be considerably less than the actual Total Loss value. The base number we’re going for right now is 20%. This means that if you blow something up worth 100 million, then 20 million is paid out in bounty (or whatever is left in the bounty pool if less than 20 million).


Oh look you just earned 10 mio isk by loosing your ships by ganking in high sec.


If people with bounties are their heads are flying untanked macks, they deserve to be ganked.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#108 - 2012-11-16 14:09:58 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:


In short, players are not going to use the system as intended.


You are utterly beyond human recognition of intelligence.
That is exactly how the system is supposed to be working.

Blackmailing, retribution, etc. All perfectly valid and awesome in this terrible game we call eve online.
GAS op, burn thread.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#109 - 2012-11-16 15:15:44 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
The current system has been bad since day one. The new system looks terrific, can someone find a way to grief with it-probably, but if that happens the same system can be used to grief him back. I look forward to this going live.



Yes, the current bounty system is horrid. I disagree that the new system looks terrific.

I think the new system is open to all sorts of unintended uses and exploits, not the least of which will be its use to extort carebears.


I understand your concerns but its silly to paint the devil on the wall, if the system is abused and it causes undue problems for non PvP'ers I would imagine that the devs would make changes. The game is supposed to have dangers and CCP has shown a desire to balance those dangers without removing them altogether (barge buffs), so I suggest we go into these changes with a positive attitude and if things go wrong, then voice exactly what the problem is and ask it be addressed.


I think the new bounty system has the potential to radicalise the miner comunity. There is a good chance that miners will start to put bounties on other miners over little controversies. Right now if a miner wants a belt for himself or has a grudge on old corpmates they already usually start up a convo with people willing to gank in high sec and give them some money for ships...

In the future they can just place bounties directly...there will be blackmailing, intrigues, industrial conspiracies....it will be a beautiful hell and the carebears will create it themselves...
Because Greed is something you can count on...
(btw. I think Bumpers probably have to step down from using fleet stabbers...)

You see, Greed IS Good. Smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#110 - 2012-11-16 15:23:41 UTC
Guy guys listen you guys if the bounty system is introduced there might be PvP in hi-sec you guys oh god this is the end

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2012-11-16 15:27:49 UTC
I welcome whatever bounty someone decides to put on me. Might actually make me a more enticing target when I go on solo roams.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#112 - 2012-11-16 15:28:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Let me put it that way...and keep in mind it is only an example:

Oh look a miner with 40 Mio bounty on his head.
Oh look, a Mackinaw with empty mids but T2 stripminers…..200.000.000 - 210.000.000 Mio ISK
Oh look two T2 blaster fitted Catalysts…................................................................30 Mio ISK
Oh look the game mechanic:
Quote:
The bounty payout is based on a percentage of the Total Loss, so the bounty received will always be considerably less than the actual Total Loss value. The base number we’re going for right now is 20%. This means that if you blow something up worth 100 million, then 20 million is paid out in bounty (or whatever is left in the bounty pool if less than 20 million).


Oh look you just earned 10 mio isk by loosing your ships by ganking in high sec.


If people with bounties are their heads are flying untanked macks, they deserve to be ganked.


Yep. Now there is even more incentive to kill truly foolish pilots.

I'm not sure the game will survive. Smile

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