Missions & Complexes

I raise the question for both armor and shield fleets, altough there are more shield fleets running.
What DPS ship and fitting would maximize my chances of getting into your fleet? I.e. what ship and fitting has the highest demand-supply ratio?

Background: I'm fairly high skilled (44M SP) pure combat sub-capital pilot who doesn't play that much and is always out of ISK. Now I have manged to accumulate enough cash to fit a nice ship, but would like to ensure that I can put this ship into use during the few hours that I play and spend as little as possible idling in Jita and waiting for fleets.
Is the answer a T3, faction BS, CS or something else?

There is no one ship.

Most fleets these days operate a waitlist.

The correct answer is to be able to fly (and have) all 3 main types: T3, Logistics and Faction BS. Additionally have all 3 ships in the incursion area and be able to switch out to whatever the fleet requires.

If you can afford to fit up a well fit faction BS, chances are buying and fitting well a T3 & Logi* instead will give you more options for more fleets, then use the isk from those fleets to get your faction BS.

* this assumes you have logi V

Mach or NM is mostly up to the FC, its personal preference.

Shield T3 you can best go for the Loki because webs, shield subsystem and still have projectile weapons (missiles can miss DPS because of flying time)

Among the regulars in the incursion community, the most common ships are the vindicator, machariel, and nightmare, in no particular order.

In vanguards you'll want short range weapons on all of them, usually, though some FCs prefer 425s and tachs on vindis and mares, respectively.

For assaults, you pretty much always want long range guns. The spawns are commonly very far away, so you have a fair bit of downtime if you fit short range.

In HQs, honestly there's not one specific doctrine that's become a standard. Typically I'd say machariels should fit 800s (some might disagree) simply due to the low dps output of 1400s. Nightmares more commonly fit tachyons in HQs, partially because of their high dps output for long range weapons and the flexibility of their engagement range. Pulses aren't exactly useless, however. Vindis do well with both rails and blasters, but the blasters need to be T2 as you won't be able to reach a lot of the spawns without Null. Rail fits aren't terribly far behind tachmares in dps, and are far and away more efficient on cap. (Granted, nightmares commonly alleviate the cap issue with cap transfer chains)


For logistics, you'll get in fleet with any of them, generally....only a few of the various VG channels actually require one or the other.

The loki plays a part i nsome vanguard fleets as a dedicated webber, and often functions as a drone bunny in HQs. It's a good candidate for MTAC duty as well.


If you're new to incursions, many channels are perfectly ok with you joining up in a T1/navy battleship. The maelstrom and hyperion are good starter choices for shield....megathron(ideally navy) and abaddon for armor.



Missile ships, if you can fly them, are a bit of an oddity...most vanguard fleets shun them a bit, since the delayed damage and poor dps application on small targets hinders them. In HQs and Assaults, however, they're commonly seen being used as snipers, though as of late, torp fits on the golem and CNR have been popping up as well...likely in anticipation of the retribution changes. Tengus are particularly useful in assault fleets, due to their high dps at sniper ranges, combined with the ability to go on the cruiser side of NCNs.

Usually the most desired ship is... SURPRISE SURPRISE THE LOGI
wHILE NOT A dps SHIP the only sites doable w/o logi are Scouts
I have heard of on SiSi some thoretical nonlogi setups but never heardof it being done on traq EVER!!!

Turret T3 or any turret BS (better faction). Missile boats are generally frowned upon because of delayed DPS.