Missions & Complexes

Go with the Golem. NH will take a while but the good thing about the Nighthawk is that the Command ships have more utility and can get into incursions etc. easy or so they claim. I can fly command ships and have had offers to shield command for them but I keep putting it off. I hope to join some incursion in the next few days wtih a Vulture.

The Golem to me is only good for one thing and that is L4s

The nighthawk is very hard to kill either passive or active but active tanking in PVP it is a tough bird.

I use to use the Eagle and Cerberus for PVP but the Eagle is almost obsolete these days I suppose the Cerb still has a spot in small group fights.

Cruiser V would open up both the NH and the Tengu, and as you already have HML spec IV then you are set up for both. They are also more viable in PVP than the Golem. Then again, a well supported Golem with torps and damage rigs in a gang would probably be quite fearsome... but still, an expensive ship doing a job that a Raven could do almost as well... Maybe not ideal.

On the other hand, you could always do Battleship V afterwards and have the Golem as an option for later as you've got Torp spec IV also.

Caldari cruiser 5

Because it is, in my OP one of THE most important skills if you ever want to pvp on the character.

Caldari = missiles and ECM

Tech 2 Logistics.
Tech 2 ECM Cruisers.
Pirate cruisers.
T3 cruiser.

Go Caldari Cruiser V - it opens up Tengu, Nighthawk and some fun Falcon frolics.

If you use Cal Cruiser V and want to get into Incursions then train up Logisitics and fly a Basi. Everyone loves logi ships, they cost less than many other ships in an Incursion if it does implode and you don't need Logi V to make a Basilisk shine.

I wouldn't go for the Golem. Instead, i'd leave it at BS 5 and then focus on the cruiser / commands again. This opens you: RNI/SNI for missioning, Scorpion for PvP and if you plan to crosstrain later on either for Guristas or Sansha, this comes handy.
From this point on, I'd go for either Tengu or Nighthawk. And if you have time, both. :)

I use nighthawk for missions and it tanks all lvl4's easily enough, just takes a while. Golem can be used for PVP but is really expensive so I wouldnt do it. Tengu can be used for all these things and as much as I wore out the amusement of flying a tengu, thats what I would recomend.

I'm at kinda of a different crossroad, i have HML, HAMS lvled up with tengu skills as well as Caldari cruiser to lvl 5, but i'm not sure if i should go with the NH or the GOlem next. Because with the golem i still need to train siege guns and tps a bit, and get AWU 5

Mach Guns make it a luxury more than a reality unless you trained guns from the start. If you have the skills it is fine but if you have Caldari skills as in missiles out the ying and yang well Tengu is better than Mach on so many levels not worth discussing and it doesn’t do far more than Tengu. Sure train up for a Mach but you will make so much money with a tengu before you reach Mach that it is a silly thing. Not to mention a poor mans Tengu cost less than a Mach Hull.

Golem if you are a hoarder of ISK is better than both because it can loot and salvage BS’s on the move without much work. So Golem is for someone who wants to make ISK in L4 a better option if you like to loot and time is not an issue. 40KM tractor works well while you are killing everything else or just moving to a gate. Plus 2 tractors and 1 salvage are nice for getting the ships that actually matter.

As for Caldari with missile skills a Tengu is far and above the Mach. People seem to forget that you need to cross skill for Mach and for people looking at long term goals with missile skills etc. are better served going with Tengu/Golem and when they have those skills down if they desire to go with Mach skill set. It will serve more in the future for most players. Mix training for 2 mins off some but not all L4's with a Mach is just insane. Tengu can burn through damn near any mission if not as fast as the Mach at least it is safe for the most part in Low Sec. Plus killing a mission a few seconds before the Tengu is worth months of training Gun skills? I train them now because my missiles are maxxed and I will fly a Mach some day just to see. However if you are a missile boat captain go Tengu Golem leave the Mach for another day. You will not lose anything.

I'm currently running Lv 4s for a Gallente Corp in Amarr space with a Navy Raven. It crushes most missions as you well know, but I'm hoping to add another ship or two to the stable to compliment it. For the most part, I shoot Sanshas and Angels, with the odd Merc or Serp mission every now and then.

The Mach is definitely on my long term radar simply because I want to fly it, but I'm thinking Tengu and Golem would be nice as well. The reason I'm considering the Golem is that there are a fair few Angel missions that are very BS Heavy and I suspect it would be faster to use the Golem rather than swap into the Noctis afterwards. So, I guess what I'm asking is what general sorts of mission would you choose the Tengu or Golem over a Raven NI? Here's how I see it:

Golem: BS Heavy missions, Damsel,etc.
Tengu: Duo of Death, The Score (Serpentis) and other missions with distant gates and cargo containers to collect.
RNI: everything else
Shuttle: Cargo Delivery, Recon 2 of 3
Stabber: Recon 3 of 3

Your thoughts?