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CCP Falcon
#41 - 2012-11-14 19:01:29 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I think there should be two tranquility servers. One in the US the other for EU.
You now how hard it is to find other US players. It's easier lately but it's still tough.


Considering the US holds the largest percentage of our subscriber base by a long shot, you seem to be looking in the wrong places.

As for sharding, Tranquility is and always will be a single virtual world, this is what makes it unique.

Smile



Yes and thats going to be it death! seriously need to wake up, this was ok 5 years ago, no now. Why do you think that every single other MMO doesnt do this...eve is saturated and you are allowing just a few to control the whole game and not letting newer players not from 2003 to have the same chances

why do you think subs have gone down, new player retention is pathetic? if you dont change and stop being stubborn, can see you no longer have a job, cos the vets are getting bored and the new players and leaving, therefore eve will be non existent. Give it what 3 years max...they way its going.


Yea, none of what you say is true lol.

I'm a 2007 player and i eat 2003 bitter vets for breakfast. Now I have bitter vet indigestion!


This attitude is awesome Big smile

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ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#42 - 2012-11-14 19:02:25 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
No, don't go away! This is an awesome idea, honest.

What if CCP decided to build a new server cluster with hardware from 2003, hosting EVE as it was back then? Awesome, right? They could charge $20 a month for such a priviledge to people who played in that server; I'm sure all the people who think EVE is dying would love to play there, because EVE was so, so much better then.


This is why GD is such a cesspool.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-11-14 19:06:21 UTC
Well, If this idea could get us rid of some scum, I'd say "hell yeah!!" with two fingers up because the real eve would become so much better without those.

Lol

brb

Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#44 - 2012-11-14 19:16:55 UTC
just because you fail to have any power or drive to really have any effect or implement sweeping changes in the mindsets of players in game... doesn't give you the right to demand to start TQ from scratch!
Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
#45 - 2012-11-14 19:20:13 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Well, If this idea could get us rid of some scum, I'd say "hell yeah!!" with two fingers up because the real eve would become so much better without those.

Lol



If you did the proper filtration and change of your pod's ectoplasm, you wouldn't encounter any scum.
Luc Chastot
#46 - 2012-11-14 19:48:05 UTC
ColdCutz wrote:
Luc Chastot wrote:
No, don't go away! This is an awesome idea, honest.

What if CCP decided to build a new server cluster with hardware from 2003, hosting EVE as it was back then? Awesome, right? They could charge $20 a month for such a priviledge to people who played in that server; I'm sure all the people who think EVE is dying would love to play there, because EVE was so, so much better then.


This is why GD is such a cesspool.


Why? Because people make joke threads or because people post stupid ideas? Or maybe it is because people make joke threads and other people take them seriously?

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Mr Pragmatic
#47 - 2012-11-14 19:52:33 UTC
Eve may die, but GD will live on forever and forever.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#48 - 2012-11-14 20:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Luc Chastot wrote:
No, don't go away! This is an awesome idea, honest.

What if CCP decided to build a new server cluster with hardware from 2003, hosting EVE as it was back then? Awesome, right? They could charge $20 a month for such a priviledge to people who played in that server; I'm sure all the people who think EVE is dying would love to play there, because EVE was so, so much better then.


I'm all for it. Seems Eve was so much better back in the day so let them have the good ol' days back. That way they don't **** up the current version.

Bypassing the word filter by partially censoring words is not allowed - CCP Eterne

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.

Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#49 - 2012-11-14 20:13:48 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
I really really hope CCP will add a new server! Eve has become totally saturated and now controlled by a few major alliances, everything is swallowed up by them and there is nothing anyone can do. Even becoming a pet doesnt. New players will never be able to have the same experience, opportunities etc because of this.

Please create a new shard please for the sake of eve! otherwise it will be dead. and no the same alliances wont be able to take over the new shard, because you should not be able to transfer ANYTHING from another, no isk, no players nothing.

eve is saturated CCP and its too late to do anythng, you add more space large alliances will just control that.

unless you do this

limit the amount of space an alliance can hold ( meaning they can only settle in one region)
limit the number of stations ( meaning the can hold max 51% of the stations in a region)
limit the number of people allowed in an alliance to 2000
limit the number of blues people can have

do this and eve might have a bit longer to live


I'm assuming you're a troll, since no thinking person could think that would actually work. On the off chance you're not a troll:

Reality doesn't work like you think it does. If you're a loser or a nobody here, you're going to be that on a new server too. The limiting factor isn't your character, it's you as a person. The current powerblocks didn't become what they are just because of chance. They became that because they are better at this game then the rest. On the new server they know how to run things and have the organizations to make it happen on day 1. They have the numbers and knowhow to roflstomp you from day 1. Point being a new server doesn't solve your problems, it just turns back the clock a little and creates new ones. The same issues that the current server has will also be on the new server.

Every problem you can think of with the game can be solved on TQ. Your solutions aren't going to do that, because you're trying to limit social ties of groups who function outside the game by using in-game mechanics. All you would achieve is force people to use alt alliances to manage their holdings. This doesn't solve anything. It just creates a pointless hurdle for the players and does nothing to improve the actual game.


Wow, someone pissed in your breakfast. With attitudes like yours, I can't believe more people aren't playing Eve.

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.

MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#50 - 2012-11-14 20:18:34 UTC
This why non-mmo non-steam games are awesome - you can play with whatever patch version you want.
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#51 - 2012-11-14 21:57:23 UTC
Got rid of some personal attacks. Even if you dislike ideas, be civil about it.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-11-14 22:01:37 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
I really really hope CCP will add a new server! Eve has become totally saturated and now controlled by a few major alliances, everything is swallowed up by them and there is nothing anyone can do. Even becoming a pet doesnt. New players will never be able to have the same experience, opportunities etc because of this.

Please create a new shard please for the sake of eve! otherwise it will be dead. and no the same alliances wont be able to take over the new shard, because you should not be able to transfer ANYTHING from another, no isk, no players nothing.

eve is saturated CCP and its too late to do anythng, you add more space large alliances will just control that.

unless you do this

limit the amount of space an alliance can hold ( meaning they can only settle in one region)
limit the number of stations ( meaning the can hold max 51% of the stations in a region)
limit the number of people allowed in an alliance to 2000
limit the number of blues people can have

do this and eve might have a bit longer to live


I'm assuming you're a troll, since no thinking person could think that would actually work. On the off chance you're not a troll:

Reality doesn't work like you think it does. If you're a loser or a nobody here, you're going to be that on a new server too. The limiting factor isn't your character, it's you as a person. The current powerblocks didn't become what they are just because of chance. They became that because they are better at this game then the rest. On the new server they know how to run things and have the organizations to make it happen on day 1. They have the numbers and knowhow to roflstomp you from day 1. Point being a new server doesn't solve your problems, it just turns back the clock a little and creates new ones. The same issues that the current server has will also be on the new server.

Every problem you can think of with the game can be solved on TQ. Your solutions aren't going to do that, because you're trying to limit social ties of groups who function outside the game by using in-game mechanics. All you would achieve is force people to use alt alliances to manage their holdings. This doesn't solve anything. It just creates a pointless hurdle for the players and does nothing to improve the actual game.


Wow, someone pissed in your breakfast. With attitudes like yours, I can't believe more people aren't playing Eve.

I'm very tolerant of new players and try to help then whenever I can. I'm also quite happy to discuss ideas that actually aim to improve the game for the players. I have low tolerance of stupidity and suggestions that aim to ruin the unique things that make EVE the great game that it is. I'm sorry if my attitude hurt your delicate feelings.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2012-11-14 22:27:15 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:


Wow, someone pissed in your breakfast. With attitudes like yours, I can't believe more people aren't playing Eve.



Like it or not, it's true. Launch a new server, and the major alliances will all have alts in it immediately, all jetting out to null sec or farming missions to make quick isk. They'd have alts training anchoring and corp management from day 1. They know how the game works, how to maximize profit, and because they have established groups who already work well together they would have an economic lead almost instantly. Skill training comes secondary to that. Even on tranq it doesn't matter if your name is on the system, you can still own it, and they would own regions very quickly.

MinefieldS wrote:
This why non-mmo non-steam games are awesome - you can play with whatever patch version you want.



I, too, enjoy playing buggy unbalanced games with almost no one else.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-11-14 22:40:03 UTC
MilitantMan wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Having multiple servers isn't a bad idea. If they were to do so, they should leave TQ alone. But create a new server, everyone starts from scratch, everything is 0.0, and anything goes...
-Edit-
No NPC space either...


yep this, but actually i would say more NPC space, rather than null sec :) make it into a proper brawling pvp nullsec server



I would say make it 7500 Sols, with 15% Hi-sec 75% Low-sec and 10% WH space.
Get rid of null and all the null bears that go with it.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#55 - 2012-11-14 22:50:15 UTC
Good idea. It will help to silence everyone who's asking to turn Tranquility into null-sec.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#56 - 2012-11-15 02:00:31 UTC
Dar Manic wrote:

Wow, someone pissed in your breakfast. With attitudes like yours, I can't believe more people aren't playing Eve.


I for one am glad more people aren't playing EVE. The majority of gamers are instant gratification D-Bags and most of the MMO playing sub-set of gamers are even worse; themepark loving "please hold my hand and tell me what EXACTLY to do, videogames are scary" carebears who don't even like the concept of pvp (or any kind of competition, risk or uncertainty at all).

EVE is better of with as few of those types as humanly possible.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-11-15 02:07:05 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I think there should be two tranquility servers. One in the US the other for EU.
You now how hard it is to find other US players. It's easier lately but it's still tough.


Considering the US holds the largest percentage of our subscriber base by a long shot, you seem to be looking in the wrong places.

As for sharding, Tranquility is and always will be a single virtual world, this is what makes it unique.

Smile



more proof that the goonspiracy is true and ccp caters to the greifers

if you shared into a pvp and no pvp server you'd made at least 10x as much money, but you've been bought and sold by the nullsec alliances who demand more servants to satisfy their aspie neckbeard fantasies.

that's why you won't give us an anti bumping module

im a pubby and im proud

Tesal
#58 - 2012-11-15 02:23:18 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I think there should be two tranquility servers. One in the US the other for EU.
You now how hard it is to find other US players. It's easier lately but it's still tough.


Considering the US holds the largest percentage of our subscriber base by a long shot, you seem to be looking in the wrong places.

As for sharding, Tranquility is and always will be a single virtual world, this is what makes it unique.

Smile



more proof that the goonspiracy is true and ccp caters to the greifers

if you shared into a pvp and no pvp server you'd made at least 10x as much money, but you've been bought and sold by the nullsec alliances who demand more servants to satisfy their aspie neckbeard fantasies.

that's why you won't give us an anti bumping module


A troll, through and through.
Sarlot
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-11-15 02:40:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarlot
They don't need to add a new shart to make the game feel new.
Just put the current null-sec in the middle, low-sec around null and the four high sec territories isolated and seperated from each other by the low/null- sec middle.
Then put another null sec that cannot be claimed around all of it. Plenty of space. Plenty of room for market variety and racial politics and a purpose of sorts for low-sec.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#60 - 2012-11-15 02:54:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Luc Chastot wrote:
No, don't go away! This is an awesome idea, honest.

What if CCP decided to build a new server cluster with hardware from 2003, hosting EVE as it was back then? Awesome, right? They could charge $20 a month for such a priviledge to people who played in that server; I'm sure all the people who think EVE is dying would love to play there, because EVE was so, so much better then.



You:

Un-install.

Now.

E:

Jenn aSide wrote:
I for one am glad more people aren't playing EVE. The majority of gamers are instant gratification D-Bags and most of the MMO playing sub-set of gamers are even worse; themepark loving "please hold my hand and tell me what EXACTLY to do, videogames are scary" carebears who don't even like the concept of pvp (or any kind of competition, risk or uncertainty at all).


And ^^this,^^ too.

Ni.