EVE General Discussion

Right, and the upcoming 10% nerf to heavy missiles (hello all Tengu/Drake mission runners/ null sec anon/plex runners), plus the obliteration of solo drone boat users, that is not a nerf to PvE income.

Amazing, rather than admit he's wrong, he makes up stuff out of thin air.

Yep, you belong in high sec.

Just as a point, usually threads like this only come up when 10-15% of the game population are able to play indefinitely with ISK reserves.

It would be a bit of a stupid move, especially if those same people planned to put someone like yourself on these forums again in a year or two demanding that it was the time to double bounties.

I'd guess that argument would revolve around the ludicrous price of ships and unplayable economy, with ofc the new players reading about it, and not feeling as excited as before they read it.

Your quoting was a bit messed up, making my re-quoting a tad difficult, but I'll try to hit the high points.




I've lived in 0.0 and mined for days without a non-blue showing up in system. Then a non-blue would show up, we'd doc up or station up, then clone jump to high sec. The non-blue would get tired of not having targets and move on. Then we'd clone jump back to 0.0 and resume out very safe mining.

I'm not saying that there is no PVP in null. I'm saying that the price of non-high mins is the same price as high mins because mining in 0.0 is as safe as mining in high.

Of course, the knee-jerk becomes..... then remove local from null sec. To which the correct reply is, "Why do you want everyone in high sec?" Take away local, and people will stop mining 0.0.

All the 0.0 mins will come from WH where people can lock themselves in and only mine when they've collapsed their out, and there are no generic ins so that they are virtually as safe as high sec.




High sec is not PVP centric. Sure, you can get blown up anywhere, but that is not too frequent in high sec.

When it starts becoming too frequent in high sec, and carebears start to drop the game, CCP comes in with a game change to ensure the carebears keep playing.




"Full game". What the heck you talking about?

If you haven't invented, or constructed a super cap, or sat in a rorq compressing ore, or played the market, or ran scams in Jita local, or did the standings grind so that you could sign up with research agents.... then you haven't played "the full game".





Try playing the penny wars in a trade hub and tell me that isn't conflict.

Try running missions high sec to be scanned down and have the objective stolen and tell me that isn't conflict.

Try starting a corp,only to be hit by a long series of war decs that are designed to blackmail you, stop you from recruiting, or keep you out of the 'roid belts that the other high sec mining corps want to strip mine and tell me that isn't conflict.


Maybe living in high sec is a bad choice.... but guess what. IT IS MY CHOICE TO MAKE, not yours.

You play the game the way you want to play it. Go get out blobbed by the other players that want to PVP, or have a txt-war in local to see which camped in fleet can post the most text-based dork images in local chat window.

If you try to force me to play the game the way you want me to play it, I will simply quit playing the game. I know, I've seen me do it.

OR, its a sandbox...... CCP calls the shots.

Ah, but you are not correct.

The WH people are selling their stuff to people that likely made ISK from bounties, or by selling stuff to people that made ISK via bounties. If those people have less ISK to spend, then demand for WH loot will fall until prices fall to the new affordability level set by the lowered ISK injection.

You are INCORRECT WH folks are selling blue loot to NPC's & therefore it is an ISK Fountain ( to the tune of ~9 trillion a month )

For those that say I can not admit when I'm wrong.....

My bad. I was wrong. I was thinking you were talking about the nanoribbons used in T3 manufacture. Yeah, the blue loot takes the place of bounties for sleepers as the massive ISK fountain, injecting iSK into the game.

here i thought this was going ot be a good idea

You were half right about the nano ribbon salvage part.
But if CCP was to be 'fair' like the OP wants if they did do a 10% cut across the board bounty cut they'd have to also cut the NPC buy orders values by a corresponding 10%