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Why can't bounties be cut in all the server to help with inflation?
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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#1 - 2012-11-13 13:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ager Agemo
I have been wondering, I know people always complain when bounties get cut on their section of space, be high low or null sec.

but then, why cant bounties be cut in all the whole server as to keep it fair and reduce the isk fountain, lets say... in half?

additionally this might make stuff like mission rewards themselves more worth.

comments?

additionally, maybe remove blue loot buying npcs and change that loot to become an ingredient to manufacture stuff?
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-11-13 13:28:00 UTC
i am pretty sure that the currently unused sleeper loot will one day be used for dust manufactorint
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-11-13 13:45:07 UTC
What inflation???

There is no inflation of pixels anywhere in Eve.

brb
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-11-13 13:47:59 UTC
CCP are keeping a 10% bounty nerf ready in case they need to use it to fix inflation.
Rodtrik
Aphex Industries
#5 - 2012-11-13 13:50:04 UTC
The influx of bounties isn't really the problem. It's the ease that bounties are obtained with, i.e. L4 missions with AI resembling the intelligence of a herd of lemmings. Fix that, you take a step towards fixing inflation.
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#6 - 2012-11-13 14:34:57 UTC
Rodtrik wrote:
The influx of bounties isn't really the problem. It's the ease that bounties are obtained with, i.e. L4 missions with AI resembling the intelligence of a herd of lemmings. Fix that, you take a step towards fixing inflation.



well according to you then the future proposed npc changes by ccp will fix the issue, the ones that wil change npc fittings and ammoutns to be more in par with capsuleer pilots, albeit weaker?
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-13 14:36:36 UTC
Rodtrik wrote:
The influx of bounties isn't really the problem. It's the ease that bounties are obtained with, i.e. L4 missions with AI resembling the intelligence of a herd of lemmings. Fix that, you take a step towards fixing inflation.

2008 wants it's thread back...

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-13 14:40:55 UTC
Remove bounties from mission rats, keep mission rewards at the same level. That way mission runners will still have isk for LP turn in & it will actually give them a reason to loot & salvage.

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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#9 - 2012-11-13 14:45:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ager Agemo
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Remove bounties from mission rats, keep mission rewards at the same level. That way mission runners will still have isk for LP turn in & it will actually give them a reason to loot & salvage.


come to think of it, this is acceptable too, but the npc ships themselves need some kind of reward aside from just salvage, maybe a chance to drop faction items? albeit extremely low? (at the same time lowering a bit the price of some faction modules that are not even better than their t2 counterparts)

and a just slightly increase on the rewards from the agent, i m thinking of something like

lvl 1 = 500 k isk and 500 lp
lvl 2 = 1 m isk and 1000 lp
lvl 3 = 2 m isk and 2000 lp
lvl 4 = 5 m isk and 4000 lp
lvl 5 = 10 m isk and 1000 lp
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-13 14:48:59 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Remove bounties from mission rats, keep mission rewards at the same level. That way mission runners will still have isk for LP turn in & it will actually give them a reason to loot & salvage.


come to think of it, this is acceptable too, but the npc ships themselves need some kind of reward aside from just salvage, maybe a chance to drop faction items? albeit extremely low? (at the same time lowering a bit the price of some faction modules that are not even better than their t2 counterparts)


They already drop a bunch of modules & ammo to loot. As it stands, highsec mission runners don't loot & salvage because they make more isk/hour from the bounties. Remove the bounties from missions & it helps inflation & gives them a reason to loot & salvage again. It would help make both lowsec & nullsec more attractive places to grind isk.

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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#11 - 2012-11-13 14:50:48 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


They already drop a bunch of modules & ammo to loot. As it stands, highsec mission runners don't loot & salvage because they make more isk/hour from the bounties. Remove the bounties from missions & it helps inflation & gives them a reason to loot & salvage again. It would help make both lowsec & nullsec more attractive places to grind isk.


Agree, didnt think about it, its a good way to encourage hunting in low and null.
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-11-13 14:53:39 UTC
Everyone wants to nerf the other guys activities while buffing their own.
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#13 - 2012-11-13 14:56:29 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
Everyone wants to nerf the other guys activities while buffing their own.



i m just saying nerf everyone, so no one complains, if bounties are cut across ALL eden by the same % no one will be able to say it was biased or whatever.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-11-13 14:57:05 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
Everyone wants to nerf the other guys activities while buffing their own.


Highsec activities are far too profitable for the little risk attached.

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Rengerel en Distel
#15 - 2012-11-13 14:58:49 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


They already drop a bunch of modules & ammo to loot. As it stands, highsec mission runners don't loot & salvage because they make more isk/hour from the bounties. Remove the bounties from missions & it helps inflation & gives them a reason to loot & salvage again. It would help make both lowsec & nullsec more attractive places to grind isk.


Agree, didnt think about it, its a good way to encourage hunting in low and null.


Pretty sure the last word from CCP was that we were in a deflationary period. Not sure you have to battle inflation while the economy is deflating. But please, there hasn't been a nerf highsec thread in atleast 30 minutes, so please keep them coming.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-13 15:03:23 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Pretty sure the last word from CCP was that we were in a deflationary period.

Really need a link to that quote.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-13 15:09:39 UTC
The nuclear option would be to replace NPC bounties with dropped tags used for LP store purchases or security status gain at an agent exchange. Theoretically, a balanced implementation could leave ratting / mission-running with comparable income as before, while kicking isk-inflation in the proverbial sack.

But that might be going too far. A reduction plus tags might work, too.
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#18 - 2012-11-13 15:10:21 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Pretty sure the last word from CCP was that we were in a deflationary period.

Really need a link to that quote.

me too.
Typhis Deterious
NO D1C3
#19 - 2012-11-13 15:10:32 UTC
You have the choice to do them and make the same money as carebears. You CHOOSE not to do them just as they CHOOSE to do them.

It's all choice and is not like you are being excluded. SO the idea of cutting bounties on NPCs only affects some, but not those who do no pve.

Tell me again how that is a fair system?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-13 15:10:51 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Pretty sure the last word from CCP was that we were in a deflationary period. Not sure you have to battle inflation while the economy is deflating.


There isn't much in the way of isk sinks in the game, so I find that hard to believe unless people are buying titan skillbooks enmasse & trashing them.

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