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FW Cyno Jammers
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Seraph Castillon
In Control
#21 - 2012-11-14 14:28:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Castillon
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
PS: It is not a small target audience, it is a non-existent audience .. you jam, knock tower into stront .. two days later you are blueballed as one of the 500 null Titans bridges in 500 sheep next door to any jammed system .. won't work.


In theory, the low sec alliance could have caps in the system before they jam it. This would give them an advantage over the 'invading' factor.
They could also jam neighbouring systems as well, presenting them with the opportunity to try something on the gates.
But yes, it still leaves them to deal with vastly superior numbers.


Given that they are active, smaller corps/alliances can already maintain a substantial amount of control over their home system by making it impossible for others to live there.
I'm not against the idea of small scale empire building in lowsec. I am however against artificial measures that would help that. It should be done in a way that feels natural.

Keep in mind that the only riches currently to be had in lowsec (moons), are for a significant part being held by nullsec alliances. Introducing more content worth holding to lowsec may end up only drawing the blocks in further.
David Devant
CTRL-Q
#22 - 2012-11-14 14:46:40 UTC
Seraph Castillon wrote:
Keep in mind that the only riches currently to be had in lowsec (moons), are for a significant part being held by nullsec alliances. Introducing more content worth holding to lowsec may end up only drawing the blocks in further.


This is an interesting point that somewhat demonstrates why FW is 'special'. The plexing and occupancy system means that it would take a significant investment of player time to hold resources rather than the current threat of a super blob. Linking control to corp investment in constellation defence would be one way to go about this.

To return to the threads origins (as you have) I suppose cyno jammer still can be useful as you say. Being able to field Archons vs Gaurdians is always useful. And the prospect of having to bridge a sizable fleet isn't what most power blocs have in mind in terms of holding these moons.
Itala D'Uhmri
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-11-14 19:34:37 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:

If the aim is to truly give FW something vs. everyone else then you need to look for another tree as we do not have a hope in hell of a doing much of anything against people whose modus operandi involve rolling in fleets (they call those numbers gangs I think) ten times larger than the weekend brawl FW fleets.


Ah yeah that's why Nulli hit T5 and broke the back of the Minmatar militia.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2012-11-14 20:21:18 UTC
Wasn't done with massive fleets but by having more orbit-alts than the enemy within the given time frame .. if you want proof of that all you need do is look at how long T5 lasted. That was CCP's failed FW revision, cash out - move on (FW: Locust Edition), we are now looking ahead debating whether the FW cyno jammer has any merit and related topics.

Do try to keep up.

PS: Pretty sure no backs were broken by having enemy get an hours worth of cash-out when 99% of remainder of time you yourself have T4-5 .. sheesh Smile
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#25 - 2012-11-14 22:07:24 UTC
I think they were being facetious.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#26 - 2012-11-14 22:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
I heard that you can use FW cynojammers on the second week of months with a "W" in them - after 23:00Eve time if it's a Saturday.

But only if you've upgraded to Tier 5, are using all your added factory/research slots and have POSes up at all the moons.
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