EVE General Discussion

A carebear is anyone who demands and/or expects to have no risk for their reward or consequences for their actions. PvPers can be as much a carebear as a high sec bear.

carebear = everyone who looks for easy kills agains mainly new players and call that PVP
carebear = all gate campers waiting for a missioner to blow up and call that PVP
carebear = anyone who whine about cloaky's in low/nulls for their PVP
carebear = every Jita spam/scammer

etc..........

These playstyles reflect on people that don't care at all. Looking for noobs to kill is not something that someone who "cares" would do. And do scammers really care that much if they're doing what they're doing?

I think I'm getting it now, though. Who the carebears are.

My account is roughly six months old. I've only been on the forums for the last month, and it's the first time I've seen the term used. There are certain things that make sense about it, but I'm looking for clarity of definition, not affirmation. You can call it as obvious as you want to, but unless you have something better than your circumstantial opinion, then I would suggest that it is just your own bias that doesn't want to admit that the term might actually apply to your own playstyle.

Let me make it clear - I avoid PvP. For the moment. I'm getting my skills up. I'm still under 10mil SP. I'm still learning the game. Does that make me a carebear cuz I won't PvP for the moment? Maybe - I don't care much for the term, but if it applies then it applies, and I'm not about to cry over it. I've been forced to defend myself a few times in PvP, only once successfully but my assailant got away and I didn't get a chance to finish him. I risk low and nulsec frequently running contracts and mining rare ores. Most of the time, I get out - I've learned how to be sneaky about it now, and don't get killed as often as I used to.

I don't know if that makes me a carebear, and I don't care if it does. If someone wants to call me a carebear, whether it applies or not, then I might suggest it is a personal problem that requires them to find something pejorative to call me to make them feel better about their own playstyle. I'm not here to affirm, I'm here to clarify the definition. Make sense?

A carebear is anyone who thinks that they don't affect other players in a game like EVE, and because they have this conviction that they're "not hurting anyone" believe that no one should be allowed to affect them using the tools in the sandbox (more specifically combat tools). Carebears may be okay with market PvP because the losses generally sting less and are less abrupt. Carebears think players who use combat tools against unwilling players are bullies and that players should be completely safe unless they're willing to engage in combat.

Carebear: "Why do you hate me so much?"

Me: "Sigh...Do I need a super-good reason?"

Carebear: "Yes!!!"

"Well, I need an enemy, and the best way to wage war is to demonize your enemy."

Carebear: "Why don't you go to nullsec where people are willing to be your enemy?"

Me: "Well then who's gonna be your enemy?"

Carebear: "Well, we just won't have one."

Me: "Oh, that won't do."

Some people pretend they don't exist because they cannot be defined.

Others attribute the term to anyone doing something different to them.

A carebear is an attitude and not an action or a person. This is why mining/missions/falcon alts/station sniper/orca dockers/whatever does not magically mean carebear.

What separates a carebear attitude from a reasonable person taking precautions is the belief that you are entitled to "your activity right now". A reasonable person understands its environment and adapts to it while a carebear demands the environment bends to his ideal formed from ignorance, laziness and misinformation.

That, I think, is the bottom line, isn't it? Attitude. That makes the most sense, too.

I define carebearism for myself as, I do as I please how I please and when I please, I spent my time in the military I took orders and in life I have a boss and rules and regulations, laws and limitations in life, I'll be damned if I come here just to join someone's ideal of what I should or shouldn't do, THAT my friends is my definition of a carebear who don't want to be bothered with a boob who wants me to rub his epeen.

Just a term like noob, that has been used to death in this game to describe everyone who plays.