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Buckingham - Testing Retribution - information and feedback

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CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-11-08 13:46:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Habakuk
Buckingham has been updated with the latest test build for the Retribution expansion. We will try to keep it updated as much as possible with nearly daily updates. Duality will be closed as we don't need two servers for the same thing.

Please use this thread for general feedback and discussion of the current client on Buckingham. Please use the feature-specific threads for feedback for these feature. Please post in this thread, if no feature specific thread exists.


Features available to test:


Mass Tests

Mass tests are planned for Tuesday, the 13th November and for Thursday, the 22nd November. More information on these later.

Known Issues

  • In some cases it is possible to break the Inventory window. It might be needed to relog in these cases.


Bug reports
Please write bug reports about any bugs which you find (and which do not exist on TQ) - except known issues in the list above.

Connecting to Buckingham:

Please follow the instructions on http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

Bug reporting | Mass Testing
Blue Harrier
#2 - 2012-11-08 14:35:37 UTC
For anyone interested the download to update the Duality client to Buckingham client (443330 -> 445378) is 185.14 MB

The update from a TQ client may well be much larger.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#3 - 2012-11-08 17:42:46 UTC
So, the winter build is going to add yet another 1.5gigs worth of memory to our already bloated Eve client folders? Not a fan.

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2012-11-08 17:50:36 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
So, the winter build is going to add yet another 1.5gigs worth of memory to our already bloated Eve client folders? Not a fan.


The client folder itself is increasing from ~10.8GB on TQ to ~11.1GB on Buckingham - after deleting old .patch files.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

Bug reporting | Mass Testing
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#5 - 2012-11-08 17:54:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Market issues with the new items needs to be added to your list.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Blue Harrier
#6 - 2012-11-08 18:09:32 UTC
Well I’ve done a tentative trial run on Buckingham and not much has changed it seems. The things that didn’t work on Duality still don’t work on Buck, a few more extra things don’t seem to work on my client but I’m investigating why.

Still at a loss as to why if I click the tiny little button to ‘Enable Compact Mode’, my cargo hold will not open but just put an extra icon on the Neocom, clicking this twice slowly then opens the cargo window. Turn it off and it works just fine.

However I must admit you have my thanks for putting it in, compact mode is pure bliss if I have many windows open.

Moving the ‘Point Camera at Selected’ option to the hidden menu almost made me sea sick until I found out how to turn it off. I liked it better under the button strip then I could flick it on/off when needed but I guess you had to move it to add the ‘extremely’ large target square so we can select where the point will swing towards.

I can confirm the client is 11.1 Gig Shocked

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#7 - 2012-11-08 18:46:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Panhead4411
How in the wide world of sports do i disable this idiotic camera swinging/focusing thing that is just all sorts of unnatural? Can find no obvious options in any of the obvious places.

If you can't tell, this is me saying i don't like this 'feature' and wish there was some place i could turn it off.

-----edit----

Thank you above poster....was too disoriented to read any new posts...i shall now dig into the hidden menus...

---Edit #2----

It does not seem to be remembering the state of the "track selected Item" check box between docks...might want to check that out...

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#8 - 2012-11-08 19:30:21 UTC
Mining frigate book and new mining frig is not seeded.What?

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Circumstantial Evidence
#9 - 2012-11-08 20:02:32 UTC
Changed working duality client shortcut to point at Buckingham, and get this "unexpected" error.
Do I HAVE TO recopy the entire TQ installation again?
Does this error mean launcher is out of sync and I should try /forceupdate?
Eve-offline status monitor says Buckingham is up, as I write this.

Quote:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launcher.py", line 44, in (module)
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 138, in StartLauncher
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 70, in InitInfo
File "lib\info.pyc", line 150, in GetUpdateServer
NameError: global name 'GetServerBuildNumber' is not defined
Locals by frame, innermost last:
Frame (module) in launcher.py at line 56:
NoInternetError = (class 'lib.exceptions.NoInternetError')
ServerUnreachableException = (class 'lib.exceptions.ServerUnreachableException')
Shutdown = (function Shutdown at 0x03D78030)
StartLauncher = (function StartLauncher at 0x040AD5B0)

[...snip...]

Frame GetUpdateServer in lib\info.pyc at line 150:
clientInfo = {'usescriptindexfiles': '1', 'appname': 'EVE', 'region': 'ccp', 'socketio': 'iocp', 'sync': '443330', 'server': 'buckingham', 'edition': 'premium', 'version': '8.10', 'role': 'client', 'build': '443330', 'branch': '//depot/games/branches/staging/EVE-STABLE/eve', 'aid': '0', 'codename': 'EVE-EVE-STABLE', 'port': '26000', 'cryptopack': 'CryptoAPI'}
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-11-08 20:22:52 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
Changed working duality client shortcut to point at Buckingham, and get this "unexpected" error.
Do I HAVE TO recopy the entire TQ installation again?
Does this error mean launcher is out of sync and I should try /forceupdate?
Eve-offline status monitor says Buckingham is up, as I write this.

Quote:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launcher.py", line 44, in (module)
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 138, in StartLauncher
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 70, in InitInfo
File "lib\info.pyc", line 150, in GetUpdateServer
NameError: global name 'GetServerBuildNumber' is not defined
Locals by frame, innermost last:
Frame (module) in launcher.py at line 56:
NoInternetError = (class 'lib.exceptions.NoInternetError')
ServerUnreachableException = (class 'lib.exceptions.ServerUnreachableException')
Shutdown = (function Shutdown at 0x03D78030)
StartLauncher = (function StartLauncher at 0x040AD5B0)

[...snip...]

Frame GetUpdateServer in lib\info.pyc at line 150:
clientInfo = {'usescriptindexfiles': '1', 'appname': 'EVE', 'region': 'ccp', 'socketio': 'iocp', 'sync': '443330', 'server': 'buckingham', 'edition': 'premium', 'version': '8.10', 'role': 'client', 'build': '443330', 'branch': '//depot/games/branches/staging/EVE-STABLE/eve', 'aid': '0', 'codename': 'EVE-EVE-STABLE', 'port': '26000', 'cryptopack': 'CryptoAPI'}


Try /server:87.237.38.69 instead of /server:Buckingham

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Circumstantial Evidence
#11 - 2012-11-08 20:40:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Try /server:87.237.38.69 instead of /server:Buckingham
no change :(
Quote:
Frame GetUpdateServer in lib\info.pyc at line 150:
clientInfo = {'usescriptindexfiles': '1', 'appname': 'EVE', 'region': 'ccp', 'socketio': 'iocp', 'sync': '443330', 'server': '87.237.38.69', 'edition': 'premium', 'version': '8.10', 'role': 'client', 'build': '443330', 'branch': '//depot/games/branches/staging/EVE-STABLE/eve', 'aid': '0', 'codename': 'EVE-EVE-STABLE', 'port': '26000', 'cryptopack': 'CryptoAPI'}
Blue Harrier
#12 - 2012-11-08 22:12:11 UTC
Don't know if you have solved this yet but you have two options;

Option 1
This assumes you already have a working copy of the last (yesterdays) Duality client.

In the folder where you had your Buckingham client delete the \eve folder and everything in it.
Now make a copy of your \eve folder from Duality and paste in your Buckingham folder to replace the old client.

Either use your old shortcut to Buckingham or create a new one to point to this client and start it up. Make sure the shortcut is pointing to /server:87.237.38.69, if you run this shortcut it should download a patch to update the client to version 445378 (about 185 MB).
When the [Play] button lights up, give it a try.

Option 2
If you don’t have a working copy of the Duality client then it’s the long way I’m afraid.
Do the same as above but use a copy of your current TQ client.
The download based on my last update of a TQ client will be over 1.5 Gig.

Hope that will get you on line.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#13 - 2012-11-08 23:13:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Daneel Trevize
Jesus *****-******* christ what is this drunk camera meant to be doing?! It's not focused on what I select or mouse over, just swinging around wildly. Seriously, I can click my ship or another object and neither will be the focus/center.

And as for turning it off, where is zee buttan?!

I'm all for a better camera, but what the hell is this thing meant to be doing, and are you aware it's ******** instead?
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#14 - 2012-11-08 23:16:48 UTC
Daneel Trevize wrote:
Jesus *****-******* christ what is this drunk camera meant to be doing?! It's not focused on what I select or mouse over, just swinging around wildly. Seriously, I can click my ship or another object and neither will be the focus/center.

And as for turning it off, where is zee buttan?!

I'm all for a better camera, but what the hell is this thing meant to be doing, and are you aware it's ******** instead?

The answer is poster earlier in the tread and yes it got some bugs currently .Shocked

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#15 - 2012-11-08 23:27:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Daneel Trevize
My god how broken do you want it? It doesn't track what you select if from an expanded stack of brackets(e.g. all at a distant celestial), but does move the camera instantly. It doesn't do this if you've selected your ship though. It will fight you re-angling the camera back towards your ship, but then when you change zoom or click again it will do the opposite and quickly focus on yourself after all.

Still can't see (Don't) this track selected item option...

OK it's in the 4-lines hidden dropdown menu of Selected Item. Of course.
Also that Set tracking onscreen position thing spawns a new giant bracket for every click...
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
#16 - 2012-11-08 23:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Melina Lin
Daneel Trevize wrote:
OK it's in the 4-lines hidden dropdown menu of Selected Item. Of course.


And... changing the setting isn't persistent. Of course.
Circumstantial Evidence
#17 - 2012-11-08 23:36:54 UTC
I'm on buckingham now. Got tired of messing with individual files so I made a fresh copy of TQ client and went through the whole 1.5 GB download.

The Duality client config that I was using included many files from previous expansion test clients, upgrade over upgrade. I guess it was time to wipe the slate clean.
Sard Caid
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#18 - 2012-11-08 23:49:37 UTC
Would it be possible to seed navy cap boosters to test ASB changes?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#19 - 2012-11-09 10:14:44 UTC
Do i actualy need to make another copy of the client for this Sad

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Blue Harrier
#20 - 2012-11-09 10:55:21 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Do i actualy need to make another copy of the client for this Sad

You don’t actually ‘need’ to make a new copy of the client but to preserve your sanity you might find it the best way forward.

You could use a Duality client if you already have one and just point the /server: to Buckingham in the shortcut settings. But if you do this and for some reason you need to change back to Duality then you would have to make a new client anyway.

Whatever you do ‘DO NOT’ use your current TQ client unless you make a copy of it or you will be unable to join TQ again without downloading the full TQ client and installing it again.

On my main gamer rig I have 4 copies of the clients one each for TQ, SiSi, Duality and now Buckingham (about 50 Gig in total including all the patch files).

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
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