Out of Pod Experience

A bit late, no?

Anyway, we already have an Elite, MMO style for a couple of years now.

I just can't recall its name.......

If you look behind Braben in the BBC video from about one minute in the new Elite is running on the monitors behind him.

I started playing Eve because it was the closest thing to MMO Elite. Unless Elite is MMO (i.e. no single player game) I probably won't be interested :(

Will still pledge enough for a ticket to the launch party though :)

lol Yeah! I remember seeing something like that a few years ago. While I was searching I dicovered another, similer game that had just gone into open beta! Now what was it called??

Hmm. Oh yes! That's it!! Eve on-line.

You have more chance of finding the preverbial pot of gold at the end of a rainbow then seeing Elite On-line

Braben is an extremely intelligent man who has built a successful business and kept it going and expanding in a terrible economic climate - the tech industry in the UK get **** access to credit, has no government incentives or subsidies and has to pay better salaries and more tax/contributions than other nations. He's done very well to keep them running and growing year on year.

He's a Cambridge grad, a very well connected individual with going on 25 years experience in the gaming industry and is involved in a great many tech projects nationally. Including the phenomenally successful Raspberry Pi project. Of which he is a founder and trustee.

Frontier: Elite II was written in quarter of a million lines of assembler code and blew everyone away with the first real use of polygon graphics, anywhere, ever. It had the entire milky way procedurally generated and included amazing **** like seamless planetary/space transition. Something even Eve can't do.

Every single Elite title was screwed with by the publishers. Braben is way too savvy to go down that road again. He's been nagged daily for almost 15 years to make Elite IV. He's never committed himself or his business to it. He is being completely sincere when he says Kickstarter offers an amazing way to not only get support for an independent project, but to also guage the level of interest in and the market viability of such a project.

To come on and say 'it has no chance' shows how misinformed you are tbh. This man knows his **** and has spent a lifetime, probably longer than you've been alive, building and delivering profitable games.

The project has already hit £350k in 3 days. It will easily meet its target of $2m. Nobody knows better how to design and deliver Elite IV and he is the past master of procedural content and tech + game design. For these reasons, and many more, I pledged my money. I know I won't be disappointed.

I've also thrown in my £300 ...

I spent months and months playing the original Elite on my BBC, Then my Speccy and C64.

I was a day one subscriber to EVE (and have come and gone over the years) and Play the X games massively. Anyone who says EVE doesnt owe a huge debt to Elite obviously has no idea what Elite was (or did in it's time).

Has Eve gone beyond Elite ? Yes and no - Much as I enjoy eve I want a smaller scale version - I want Elite again. It's why I play X now more than EVE.

Will a new Elite suck ? I doubt that. Will it innovate - That's more of a question. Dave B and the boys however are a solid coding team. They say they have learnt from the mistakes of Frontier (and there were far fewer mistakes than amazing coding) have built the underlying network comms already (its only a limited size multiplayer rather than full on MMO - which to me has greater apeal to be honest).

People question why a Kickstarter as Dave b is probbaly a millionaire yadda yadda yadda ... I doubt he is you know ... Plus this way the project has dedicated money rather than risk financially crippling an individual.

I'd really advises all EVE players to kick in a few quid. Whats it gonna hurt ya ? worse case is you loose a couple of quid (you are pay a 10 a month to CCP already - whats say £2 ?) Best case - we get an excellent space trading sim. Elite invented the open world to some extent (and I don't know where these P2W comments have come from - its a standard standalone game model not some face book P2W game) ...

Bottom line is that EVE, X Beyond and many other games wouldn't have eisted without the masterpeice that was Elite. It's why i had no issue handing over my cash.

G.

Did he metion EVE at all? What he thinks of it?

I was concearned in the pitch that he doesnt even seem aware of the last 10 years of space MMO development.

He seemed dead excited when he said "It's going to be MULTIPLAYER!" - Like he'd just come up with a new concept.

It didnt sound like he's looking to do an Elite MMO at all.

This was before Eve. I don't think its appropriate to comment on a ten year old conversation in relation to a new project tbh. Wouldn't be fair. Here's how he's thinking tho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iTBvpd3_Vqk

You can see the benefit of a bloody good education in this sort of stuff.

We'll just have to wait and see. It seems to be an unfortunate time to launch a kickstarter, leading in to and covering the christmas period.

I think I'd like the multiplayer to be along the line of dayz private hive setups. That'd be ace.

Yup, its creaking along towards the target. Can they double their money in the most spendy month of the year tho?

On a side note, has anyone considered spending 5k or so making an amazing tech demo and some concept art then running off with the half a mill idiots give you on kickstarter with no conditions?

I do hope your not for real....but if your not I think you will find its the other way round

And WHY kickstarter....well look at the stuff thats made these days.... publishing houses have got so risk adverse. David Baden feels this game would not get a look in....just like when he made the first elite.... shock no 3 lives no high score it was a sandbox game before the genre was even thought of......but heres the big kicker of elite.... fly your shinny ships by wire...none of this point and click...a real dog fight.

New dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gMbLjUjs1w&feature=youtu.be

PVP is planned for the new game remember back in 1984 the internet was a long way off from coming to peoples homes.