Intergalactic Summit

The what?

Edit: If you're referring to scripture, the use of Vitoxin is usually justified through the scriptural doctrine that God gave the Amarr all the stars and stewardship over everyone in them, to bring them to God, coupled with the proscription that it is through suffering that one is freed from their chains, along with the generally accepted idea that salvation is multigenerational.

I don't agree with it; I'm not really an Amarrian anymore. However, you'll do better for yourself if you actually make an effort to think like Amarrians when dealing with Amarrians, rather than just trying to dismiss them as Evil Slavers.

I rather thought I was helping the lady Meiyi by taking the responsibility of explaining things to Mr. En Welle, but point taken.

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I, on the other hand, have been to Intaki V (against my will, I might add), and I find "internment camp" to be a quite fitting description of the place.

That you go out of your way to be inhumane to prisoners, and appear to be proud of the fact, is deeply troubling. I wonder what your Ida says about such practices.

I'm afraid you've confused me, sir. So in saying that your prisons are meant to be filthy and dangerous, you meant that your prisons were not meant to be filthy and dangerous - these conditions are the prisoners' fault, and you have nothing to do with it? It sounds much more like you provide the simple necessities that we Caldari do, and then allow the prisoners do what they will with them. All I can say to this idea is that, as your people have taken away the freedoms of these prisoners, that makes your government their guardian, and their living conditions reflect very poorly upon the guardian indeed.

Why you would be proud of such an arrangement - of using horrible living conditions as a deterrent instead of doing something to help these people - is beyond me, sir. Perhaps I have misunderstood. If so, I apologize.

I am not and have never been a member of TSF. I am, however, affiliated with Naqam, who is in an alliance with TSF.

That's neither here nor there, though. My planetary experience on Intaki V was well before my acquaintance with Sansha's Nation. I was a child, dragged down onto the surface of that asphyxiating rock by a parent who insisted, against my protests, that it was time for me to familiarize myself with "my people", as she erroneously called them. I had never even been to a planet before, and had no desire to go to one, but there was nothing I could do.

The facility I was kept in was called a village. A cluster of primitive and shoddily constructed habitation modules with barely any life support systems installed, and with doors you had to physically push or pull to open. The air was unfiltered and stank of vegetation and animal droppings, and the habitation modules weren't even airtight, so you smelled it at night, too. There were animals walking around freely, rolling in mud, defecating on the ground, spreading filth everywhere, and other children playing with them as they did. How the whole place hadn't died from pestilence a long time ago was a mystery to me.

The air was filled with tiny, flying horrors I had never encountered before, but which I learned were called insects. They got everywhere, and at times I hardly dared to breathe for fear of inadvertently inhaling one. Some of them even sucked blood.

The worst part of it all was that constant, bone-grinding gravity. This was before I had any implants at all, not even synthetic muscle grafts, so I was completely defenceless against it. Only a day after I arrived, every muscle in my body was aching. I felt I was carrying aroud an extra person with me everywhere I walked. Every night, I woke up several times gasping for air, as my lungs struggled against that crushing force to pull that putrid air into them. There was no way at all to turn down the gravity setting and ease the discomfort. Only one way was down, only one way was up, and up was impossible to go. Until the day, weeks later, when I was finally able to board the shuttle and go back home to the station and a place fit for human life.

Even today, after having been through space battles, losing ships, losing bodies, waking up in new ones, those few weeks on the surface of Intaki V are still the most terrifying and unpleasant experience I have ever had.

I was being glib. Also: Prisons built for offworlders are what I describe. We do not have what you would call "prison" for native Intaki. Offworlder prisons are meant to be punishment. The nature of the punishment is left to the prisoners themselves. We give them tools to make a tolerable life if they so choose. Few ever do. That is what I meant.



We provide all things necessary for survival but do not intervene in day-to-day affairs. That is left to the prisoners. In most but not all cases, the criminals make their lives and the lives of others awful.



We consider it an affront to the victims of crime that they and their countrymen be subjected to taxation so that offworlder criminals can be rehabilitated. This is considered to be increasing the overall suffering resulting from the original crime.

All prisoners have access on request to a priest, a physician and a paper copy of the 5 Golden Suthras.



...But it does pursue it and pursues it regularly for its own people, and even more so for foreigners. The Caldari reputation for punishment is somewhat more reknowned than the Amarrians for its severity and swiftness when it comes to offworld criminals.

Thank you for indulging my questions, sir.



I understand, sir. Thank you for your honesty.



We rarely distinguish greatly between foreigners and locals in our punishment of criminals. If anything, we are more variable in the punishments to our comrades when they betray us, but this is because we know more deeply the extent of their crimes and have more options for reply. A strict legal system is important, and should be applied uniformly. what it should not be is needlessly cruel.

I'm curious. Why do the Intaki treat offworlders so differently in their punishments?

Okay why has this thread degenerated into yet another political argument?

I respectfully request you people take this elsewhere.

This is supposed to be a thread to promote a social night.

How in Gods Almighty Name did you manage to turn this into an argument?

Please, please, please, argue elsewhere.

Fly safe.