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UPDATED - Unscheduled Downtime - November 4th

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Jaiccar Alkalazulu
Jewish Zeppelin Mafia
#161 - 2012-11-04 04:13:59 UTC
Davka Estemaire wrote:
i bet those 3 scam bots in jita are wondering where everyone is

We are all just AFK
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#162 - 2012-11-04 04:14:04 UTC
Suck it, Im in too!
TheInquisitor Charante
Capital Navy
#163 - 2012-11-04 04:14:28 UTC
Any update about when server will be back online??
It is still offline......

-Alone Wolf Lookin for a Wolfpack-

Eli Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#164 - 2012-11-04 04:14:37 UTC
Study all week for exams and log in for some addiction quenching on a Saturday night. Nothing better than this....oh wait.

From what i have seen CCP is fantastic about keeping their server up, and this doesnt seem to happen often, so no real reason to redicule them over them it.

...Of course, i will gladly play along to the angered toon of no connection if CCP is handing out some week old halloween goodies for the server issues.
Onie Auduin
Wolves of Liberty
#165 - 2012-11-04 04:14:38 UTC
Sikmaa wrote:

Right... go ahead and snapshot their database servers, let me know how that works out for you. When would you suggest they quiesce them? Every 5 mins?

Heh' "site recovery manager" I should be so lucky to have an installation small enough to be serviced by a software fail over system like that.

Having worked for large data centers before, even virtual technology has errors. Ever see how horribly wrong a VMWare server can get when it fails on an update? Not pretty! Never mind what all that will do to a database server.

Barista's Against Jovian Oppression

Thomas Gallant
Quafe Company Courier Shipping
#166 - 2012-11-04 04:14:45 UTC
Kai Lightfoot wrote:
The Doctor Galferrin wrote:
Kai Lightfoot wrote:

"RVB are idiots, they obviously live to **** people off, so instead of everyone going WarDec on them which is what they want, CCP should simply nuke their corp and everyone it. Corp, Ships, Characters...everything and see what they can do with that"

Everyone, everywhere should wardec RvB if CCP don't do the honourable thing and purge all 5500+ RvB characters.

oh dont be mad because they declined your application!! lol

Don't be mad when you look below my character name and see I'm in RvB...

yeah, took me a few to notice that you were quoting someone on facebook, and not saying this yourself.

Anyway, I blame that Polaris corp, they're always causing trouble.
oien cabrereas
Gold Trading Inc..
#167 - 2012-11-04 04:15:00 UTC
IM IN THANK YOU CCP I LOVE YOU now where are my free snowballs :D
Blackbody Holdings
#168 - 2012-11-04 04:15:07 UTC
Servers up now.
Az Tek
#169 - 2012-11-04 04:15:49 UTC
Disciple Amphal wrote:
It'd be awesome is all the data was corrupted/destroyed and we had to start from scratch!

[WTB] All major name!

Fight, Fly, Crow... Bangerang

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#170 - 2012-11-04 04:16:18 UTC
This outage is an outrage and you might have heard of The Constitution which specifically says something about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and you've ruined my weekend and unless you want a battalion of Navy Seal snipers to invade your country for taking away my weekend (I work all week and pay TAXES and this is what you do with my weekend??!) I expect FULL reimbursement of the past 4 years subscription costs and some skillpoints for pain and suffering. You should have thought about this when your egg-headed liberal ivy tower computer nerds bought the hardware, but you didn't and now you're at the mercy of the full military might of the U.S. Armed Forces* so you'd better choose your next move carefully, I tell you what.

* Yes, I live in Canada but I know a blackbelt who does martial arts (the word 'martial' is an ancient Sanskrit word that roughly translates to 'war') and I don't know if you know but there exists a professional courtesy between warriors, so all I have to do is ask (because I pay taxes which pay the salaries of military planners), so yeah.

Gimme some SP.
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#171 - 2012-11-04 04:16:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
Malchristus wrote:
Daemon Ceed wrote:
nortelslug wrote:

100% uptime HA costs HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, plus full hardware replacement in multiple datacenters at regular intervals + running a backup internet. For $200/month@400K players, it MIGHT be doable.

**** happens. Move on with your life and come back tomorrow. The world did not end.

Hundreds of millions? Not quite. You can get very close HA (the OS's would have to reboot) with a VMWare cluster running your hosts and redundant SAN's connected to the cluster. I spoke to a Dev @ Eve Vegas and the issue running on VMWare ESXi was that when a node migrates from one server to another it either hangs on re-building the node. It seems more of a software issue than anything else, but if they really wanted to I'm sure they could find a solution to the problem.

Plainly put, relying on physical hosts to run everything on bare metal leads to long downtimes. Utilize virtualization, snapshotted data storage or continuous replication, and you can effectively ensure 99.99% update and razor thin RTO/RPO's for a few hundred thousand for a medium sized business. Not hundreds of millions. I do it at my job every day and have never had a time where systems weren't live within 5 minutes or less during a catastrophic failure. We also use Site Recovery so with a single click of a button we can bring our systems online at a secondary site within minutes should we our primary datacenter gets cratered.

Yes but do you get laid ........... ever?

Quite often. Though I sometimes wonder if its because how much money I make in this business rather than how good I look or my shining personality. Lol
Right Hand Of The Legion.
#172 - 2012-11-04 04:17:01 UTC
lets go CCP i have many things to do tonight . ive been waiting for a few hours now. figure this out we know you can do it!!! Ugh
Territorial Dosan
Juarez Cartel
#173 - 2012-11-04 04:17:03 UTC
Free SP anyone? Hint hint devs... :P
CCP Falcon
#174 - 2012-11-04 04:17:40 UTC

Original post updated - Tranquility is back online and accepting connections! Spaceships for everyone!

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Elderchild panda
Dark Neutron Star
#175 - 2012-11-04 04:18:02 UTC
Did I hear CCp say free plex for the trouble they have caused?? A free skill Points Thanks CCP
Dirk Kouvo
The Silver Foxes
#176 - 2012-11-04 04:18:59 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
Is there any word to what exactly was the hardware issue?

A mouse from the research lab upstairs escaped and had many mini-mice inside of server 163 causing a short circuit that seems to have induced a stack overflow. Redundancy circuits would have kicked in but the minion viewing them happened to have had an Indian for lunch and was using the facilities so couldn't trigger the switch over in time. CCP will be writing a strongly worded letter to the proprietor of the restaurant at which he ate.

At or about the same time a fire broke out across the street. This wouldn't have been an issue but there is a strip club across the street and at least 3 women were evacuated before getting their blouses. This meant that CCP employees who usually are only exposed to digital boobies stampeded to the southern windows of the office. In the commotion two key programmers were injured and have been evacuated to the hospital - one with a sprained ankle and the other with a sprained other part.

This is only scuttle but or hearsay or perhaps even heresy so take it with a pinch of salt. I recommend taking the pinch of salt with some fries and those fries with a nice medium rare steak.

I hope this missive has at least been entertaining as I am confident it is about as useful as the original enquiry.


Dirk "I look better in RL" Kouvo

Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#177 - 2012-11-04 04:19:45 UTC
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
Is there any word to what exactly was the hardware issue?

Read the posts like everyone else?

I did! No one from CCP has actually stated what the "hardware" issue is... I am a system/network admin and I deal with stuff like this with my clients. Just like to know the technical info.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#178 - 2012-11-04 04:20:05 UTC
Hold on, I am actually being serious here...

I'm missing fittings I applied before servers went down.

Where can I mash an 'I am angry' butan?
Rote Kapelle
#179 - 2012-11-04 04:20:15 UTC
Back in business !!!
Tinja Soikutsu
Caldari State
#180 - 2012-11-04 04:20:46 UTC

*rummages and rabbles around the forum*

Ohh hey there servers are about to go back online!


commoooooon! go back u...

yes! the servers are back up gogogogogogoogogogogogoogogogoooo!!

OMG WTF happened to the servers?!