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Tyr Styrkar
Hellsing Arms Weapon Industrials
#61 - 2012-11-04 03:47:18 UTC
Who ever knew there could be so many 5 seconds.
Kelseru
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#62 - 2012-11-04 03:47:19 UTC
Server status: Not accepting connectoins
Lawl
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-11-04 03:47:31 UTC
Connecting... connecting.... connecting... connecting... connecting...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Water
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-11-04 03:47:57 UTC
I don't want free SP for this. 500k wouldn't make a dent in my pursuit of my second Carrier V.

All I ask is for a few Gravimetric sites in place of the crappy Ladar sites my home system seems to think I love so very much.

Oh, and a Ragnarok. Apparently those are the best mining ships these days, and those Gravimetrics you want to give me won't mine themselves.
Alywyn Shrike
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-11-04 03:47:58 UTC
I'm so cold, so very cold.....
Rocketfish
SPACE BOOMERS
Federation Uprising
#66 - 2012-11-04 03:48:06 UTC
Stupid cluster...not accepting connection. way to troll me CCP
PO3T
Trent Industries
#67 - 2012-11-04 03:48:53 UTC
Well, at least we can post on the forum again ^^
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#68 - 2012-11-04 03:49:21 UTC
Alywyn Shrike wrote:
I'm so cold, so very cold.....


Hug and rub to warm you up. Big smile

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Water
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-11-04 03:49:27 UTC
Alywyn Shrike wrote:
I'm so cold, so very cold.....


That's because we keep podding you guys =D
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#70 - 2012-11-04 03:49:30 UTC
nortelslug wrote:


100% uptime HA costs HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, plus full hardware replacement in multiple datacenters at regular intervals + running a backup internet. For $200/[email protected] players, it MIGHT be doable.

**** happens. Move on with your life and come back tomorrow. The world did not end.


Hundreds of millions? Not quite. You can get very close HA (the OS's would have to reboot) with a VMWare cluster running your hosts and redundant SAN's connected to the cluster. I spoke to a Dev @ Eve Vegas and the issue running on VMWare ESXi was that when a node migrates from one server to another it either hangs on re-building the node. It seems more of a software issue than anything else, but if they really wanted to I'm sure they could find a solution to the problem.

Plainly put, relying on physical hosts to run everything on bare metal leads to long downtimes. Utilize virtualization, snapshotted data storage or continuous replication, and you can effectively ensure 99.99% update and razor thin RTO/RPO's for a few hundred thousand for a medium sized business. Not hundreds of millions. I do it at my job every day and have never had a time where systems weren't live within 5 minutes or less during a catastrophic failure. We also use Site Recovery so with a single click of a button we can bring our systems online at a secondary site within minutes should we our primary datacenter gets cratered.
Escobar Noreaga
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-11-04 03:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Escobar Noreaga
The RvB event broke it, 10000 rifters literally blotted out the sun, the sun went supernova and jita was caught in the wormhole created by said event.

Reports state that the millions of scam bots cried out at the injustice and the Universe answered.

RIP
Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#72 - 2012-11-04 03:51:41 UTC
I think someone "accidently" kicked one of the extension cords for the servers and now they are trying to find out which one is unplugged.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

Korwiin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-11-04 03:51:50 UTC
nortelslug wrote:


This.

100% uptime HA costs HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, plus full hardware replacement in multiple datacenters at regular intervals + running a backup internet. For $200/[email protected] players, it MIGHT be doable.

**** happens. Move on with your life and come back tomorrow. The world did not end.


Hardware vendors love customers that assume this is true.
Divine Chaoss
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#74 - 2012-11-04 03:52:08 UTC
Daemon Ceed wrote:
nortelslug wrote:


100% uptime HA costs HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, plus full hardware replacement in multiple datacenters at regular intervals + running a backup internet. For $200/[email protected] players, it MIGHT be doable.

**** happens. Move on with your life and come back tomorrow. The world did not end.


Hundreds of millions? Not quite. You can get very close HA (the OS's would have to reboot) with a VMWare cluster running your hosts and redundant SAN's connected to the cluster. I spoke to a Dev @ Eve Vegas and the issue running on VMWare ESXi was that when a node migrates from one server to another it either hangs on re-building the node. It seems more of a software issue than anything else, but if they really wanted to I'm sure they could find a solution to the problem.

Plainly put, relying on physical hosts to run everything on bare metal leads to long downtimes. Utilize virtualization, snapshotted data storage or continuous replication, and you can effectively ensure 99.99% update and razor thin RTO/RPO's for a few hundred thousand for a medium sized business. Not hundreds of millions. I do it at my job every day and have never had a time where systems weren't live within 5 minutes or less during a catastrophic failure. We also use Site Recovery so with a single click of a button we can bring our systems online at a secondary site within minutes should we our primary datacenter gets cratered.


I think my brain just crashed
Xeromax Tadaruwa
Binary Fluidity
#75 - 2012-11-04 03:55:19 UTC
Starting up...(110 sec)
Gyala Frey
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-11-04 03:55:58 UTC
And I just resubbed today after being gone over a year. Bad omen?
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-11-04 03:55:59 UTC
Do we get free SP? :)
Karea Riscinda
Odysseus Enterprises
#78 - 2012-11-04 03:56:05 UTC
All hardware will break down. It's inevitable. But the important thing is that CCP is fixing the problem, and even more, they're upfront and honest about it with us. A lot of games, if they encounter a problem, will clam up and not say anything in an effort to avoid bad publicity.

Not only is EVE one of the most stable games I've ever had the privilege of playing on, but they're upfront about whats happening when something does go wrong. Kudos to you, CCP, and hope the problem is resolved soon!
The Doctor Galferrin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-11-04 03:56:57 UTC
Gyala Frey wrote:
And I just resubbed today after being gone over a year. Bad omen?


yeah you broke it man
Trokiel
Defiance Metal Works
#80 - 2012-11-04 03:57:21 UTC
Well, at least this gave me enough time to go into the kitchen and make a huge batch of chili and then go outside for some fresh air!