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Anathema bugged for WH collapse?
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Lau Macelaru
The. A-Team
#1 - 2012-11-02 13:15:44 UTC
It's the second time in a row i try to collapse a critical WH with my anathema.

From what i know, the ship have 28 k m3, so it's 56 k m3 both ways.

Now, what's my situation...the WH is a static 0.0, with seemed to me to have 3 mil m3...

So, i've been doint the BS way to collapse , and the hole became critical when i jumped on the other way, meaning 300 k m3 left , i jumped back with 150 k m3 mass...then went 4 more trips with anathema, ( 4*56=224 k m3) and its still on.

Last time it was the same situation and i went 7 times both ways.

Anyone else experiencing this kind of problem?
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-11-02 13:36:14 UTC
Lau Macelaru wrote:
It's the second time in a row i try to collapse a critical WH with my anathema.

From what i know, the ship have 28 k m3, so it's 56 k m3 both ways.

Now, what's my situation...the WH is a static 0.0, with seemed to me to have 3 mil m3...

So, i've been doint the BS way to collapse , and the hole became critical when i jumped on the other way, meaning 300 k m3 left , i jumped back with 150 k m3 mass...then went 4 more trips with anathema, ( 4*56=224 k m3) and its still on.

Last time it was the same situation and i went 7 times both ways.

Anyone else experiencing this kind of problem?


1/10

in case serious: wh can have a 10% deviation on mass, so your calculations are off. Also, if you jump in a wh with a battleship it means it has LESS then 300 left, not 300. with an ab/mws bs this can be anything from 299 t0 151
DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
#3 - 2012-11-02 14:18:21 UTC
Lau Macelaru wrote:
It's the second time in a row i try to collapse a critical WH with my anathema.

From what i know, the ship have 28 k m3, so it's 56 k m3 both ways.

Now, what's my situation...the WH is a static 0.0, with seemed to me to have 3 mil m3...

So, i've been doint the BS way to collapse , and the hole became critical when i jumped on the other way, meaning 300 k m3 left , i jumped back with 150 k m3 mass...then went 4 more trips with anathema, ( 4*56=224 k m3) and its still on.

Last time it was the same situation and i went 7 times both ways.

Anyone else experiencing this kind of problem?


You're looking at your ship's volume, not its mass. The mass of an Anathema is 1810000 kilograms, or 1.8 kilotons. You only put about sixteen kilotons on the hole in four round trips.
Lau Macelaru
The. A-Team
#4 - 2012-11-02 14:52:59 UTC
Way to go to make a fool out of me....thanks for the light up....god damn!!!!
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#5 - 2012-11-02 15:11:05 UTC
HIC? AMIRITE?
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#6 - 2012-11-02 16:34:48 UTC
[Devoter, Hole Ender]
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Thermic Plating II
Reactor Control Unit II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I

Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#7 - 2012-11-02 22:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Fremen
Durzel wrote:
[Devoter, Hole Ender]
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Thermic Plating II
Reactor Control Unit II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I

Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Nope. You shouldn't fit more than two generators, imo. Your mass is reduced enough with two. Otherwise you're using a 300mil ISK ship for closing WHs only, unless you're willing to bring to a fight an undertanked HIC. That ACR can be a Trimark and that RCU a plug in your resist hole.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-02 22:30:51 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Durzel wrote:
[Devoter, Hole Ender]
good fit


Nope. You shouldn't fit more than two generators, imo. Your mass is reduced enough with two. Otherwise you're using a 300mil ISK ship for closing WHs only, unless you're willing to bring to a fight an undertanked HIC. That ACR can be a Trimark and that RCU a plug in your resist hole.


dont see the problem. id use scan rigs as well :S
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#9 - 2012-11-02 23:20:52 UTC
Maybe some shield tank, too.
Sandslinger
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-11-02 23:25:53 UTC
To extrapolate on what the hic does

The bubbles reduce your ship to below the size of a frig (check their stats)

100mn increases your mass to half the size of a battleship.

In the event that you can't fly a devoter a 100mn cruiser does the same job, just not with the same safety.
Cheesy Feet
The Hells Bells Club
#11 - 2012-11-05 11:46:10 UTC
---- OR ----

Crit Hole Closing For Dummies Lol :-

1. Train an shiny new alt for Miny Cruiser 3 and Afterburner 1 - approx 3 days training from scratch.

2. Buy your alt a Rupture and fit it with a 100MN Afterburner 1 - Cost around 9 to 10 mill (insure the ship if you like)

3. Use the alt in his mighty Rupture to jump out light (A/B off) and jump back heavy (A/B on) - you only have an approx 1 in 7 chance that you'll end up on the wrong side of the hole. So the odds are with you unless you've offended Bob lately.

4. If Bob hates you and you're on the wrong side, then self destruct and suicide out, then bring a new Rupture the next time you have a route in

5. Get a few corp mates to do the same and you will have a few spare hole closing suicide alts ready when needed.

6. This method is a great for closing crit holes where you may get ganked too.

7. You might want to keep the alts in a NPC corp so any loss mails dont go against your corp, if so then just log them out in a safe spot in your system until needed.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#12 - 2012-11-05 12:29:56 UTC
I was going to basic educate this guy, but it has been done.

I prefer stabbers or omens, as they are (typically) cheaper. I have also seen 10MN Anathema fits so you can spend hours of tedium getting yourself out of the doodoo instead of blowing up a cheapass cruiser.

Also, if you get your scrub alt trapped in null, just set jita on AP and see if you make it. I did it with a raven once, and a Stabber another time. Be brave.

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Cheesy Feet
The Hells Bells Club
#13 - 2012-11-05 13:26:17 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
I was going to basic educate this guy, but it has been done.

I prefer stabbers or omens, as they are (typically) cheaper.


WHAT!!!! Rinse your mouth out!!!

The Stabber is a graceful and elegant gentlemans ship of war, the Omen is pretty and gold plated too.

Nope! the chicken headed Rupture is plenty good enough for some scrub alt to pop holes with!

Please leave the others for gentlemen pilots only!

P.S. times must be tough in SAA if you're coppering up for the difference between a stabber and a rupture P

Thanks for the like BTW
Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#14 - 2012-11-05 13:36:02 UTC
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Also, if you get your scrub alt trapped in null, just set jita on AP and see if you make it. I did it with a raven once, and a Stabber another time. Be brave.

Tip: Setting your medical clone to Jita will make this process guaranteed to work. Every time! You will end up in Jita.

With or without ship/pod Smile

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