EVE General Discussion

Just watch to see if any goods are being bought up. Then perhaps there is a scheme at foot.

Unless I missed some major patch notes on retribution, there still is no way to compete with highsec industry unless you want to lose money.

Possible? Yes - you just need some heavy market manipulation going alongside.

I don't think so. You can manipulate certain items, sometimes certain categories, but it's generally on a per-system (sometimes you can do a whole region) basis. Just to do that you need to have a LOT of capital on hand. There are SO many damn items in this game... even if you had the hundreds of trillions in isk and all the accounts it would take to manipulate the whole of highsec, you still have a problem: The indys. They'll respond... any manipulation would be to the benefit of highsec indys as a whole, and the manipulator would suffer staggering losses. Most indys I know operate their actual manufacturing at around 10-50% capacity anyway, depending on how big their operation is (bigger operations actually use less of their capacity for manufacture).

The reason the goons can screw with something like ice is that they cover everything end to end. They manipulate the market (not cheap to do), they restrict ice mining through ganking, and I would bet they mine some ice themselves. It was a big deal when they started doing it just because of the terrific effort involved! I mean... how many goons do you think touch that operation? I could't even fathom a guess... but I'd wager it's a lot. End to end for all items? Now you're talking highsec POS's, null materials moving into empire, WHs opening up who-knows-where, mission runners, miners of all stripes... too boo-coo.

tl;dr; No. No organization has the manpower or the capital to do the whole of empire's market.

Would just be hurting themselves as some of the biggest customers hisec has.

You'd better direct that question to your alliance. From what i've heard they have an entire think-tank dedicated at finding flaws in the game design and use those at the detriment of others.

I think he means they do this AFTER they nerf highsec and get all production into 0.0.

I think what some people are overlooking is the potential competition spike the expansion will bring to high sec industrialist corps. Rather than simply trying to beat each other at their own games, some might spend money on bounties for their competition.

He did? He is?

I reread - never saw the word BOUNTY used once.

What I saw was a sad Goon looking for ways to rant more about how Goons can **** highsec up.

Just sayin'.

Most indy alts never undock. You'll need to hit freighter and itty alts seriously hard, not just gate camp Jita, or burn the undock. You'd have to hit every hub at the same time, and hold it 23.5/7 before it would begin to be felt.

It would be much easier to just manipulate the crap outta minerals and miners instead. You wouldn't even need to get them all, just one mineral (kinda like they did with iso:P)

1) Then it ain't possible without putting a bounty on EVERYONE.
2) Then they need to wardec everyone to preclude using ganks.
3) Which leaves NPC corps which can only be killed with ganks.
4) The ganking costs needs to be much less than the bounty payout - which is 20% ganked ship value until bounty is realised.

So, assuming he WAS talking about bounties specifically the answer is NO - I dont think there's'enough money in game for it to even be remotely possible.

But I think he knew that. Hence my assumptions.

Thus the only other way is a Goons [select mineral type here] interdiction which is going to be as good as impossible also. 100 times harder than the ice job which they failed at miserably last time.