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Will the new bounty system save EvE?

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#1 - 2012-11-01 16:07:56 UTC
I think it's possible that the new bounty system could be the saviour of EvE.

The two main complaints about high-sec right now are;
1. Suicide ganking isn't profitable enough for the effort.
2. High-sec players get too much isk for too little reward.

A further complaint is that the game has too few ISK sinks.

With the new bounty system, we will be able to place bounties of any amount on anyone, for any reason. We can force people to participate in PvP even if they pretend they don't want to. We can make ganking profitable. Even if the profits will be small (20m bounty from a Mackinaw according to Petrus Blackshell in this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2067812#post2067812 ), it might be worth it just for the tears, plus loot and salvage.

Essentially, for every 20m ISK bounty you place on a miner, that miner will lose 200m isk when he is ganked. This makes it seem like high-sec mining is going to become quite a risky business and result in a lot of carebears losing a lot of ISK to gankers who just want to see them QQ.

So where does the ISK sink part come in? Well, the bounty system itself is an ISK sink. As people keep piling bounties on the miners, the bounties get higher and higher. A miner with a 200m bounty is good for 10 ganks, and what happens when a carebear miner is ganked too many times? He quits EvE, taking his bounty with him.

Every time a carebear quits EvE, they are removing ISK from the economy, thus creating the ISK sink the game needs.

It seems to me that with the new bounty system, we can save EvE by forcing players to quit with relentless ganking. The higher the bounties, the more likely they are to quit and remove those high bounties from the economy when they do.

This is why I think the new bounty system, with the proper player initiative, could save EvE. Alternatively, it could also lead to the fiery death of EvE.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-11-01 16:09:40 UTC
At least we will have something to do with the endless Tech ISK faucet the bears keep screaming about.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2012-11-01 16:11:22 UTC
Quote:


Will the new bounty system save EvE?


Who says EVE needs saving?

Mr Epeen Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-11-01 16:12:37 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
At least we will have something to do with the endless Tech ISK faucet the bears keep screaming about.
Too bad that tech isn't an ISK faucet (or that the new bounty system isn't an ISK sink).
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#5 - 2012-11-01 16:12:45 UTC
Posting in a stealth "EVE is dying" thread

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6 - 2012-11-01 16:14:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
Tippia wrote:
the new bounty system isn't an ISK sink

It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
Robert De'Arneth
#7 - 2012-11-01 16:15:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert De'Arneth
Wait Eve is dying and needs saving? News to me, better start looking for new game!! Darn it. What needs saving is these froums from people like the OP. I swear Riot Girl cries more then any 1000 high sec players.

By the way RG, thanks for heads up my subscrptions are up in DEC, since eve is dying I can save real dollars, maybe you are useful afterall. Big smile

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#8 - 2012-11-01 16:17:06 UTC
So who other than the gankers that look to grief miners will be placing the bounties?

It's not profitable when your the one spending the money on the bounty..
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#9 - 2012-11-01 16:19:03 UTC
I Will Save you all.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#10 - 2012-11-01 16:20:20 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
What needs saving is these froums from people like the OP. I swear Riot Girl cries more then any 1000 high sec players.


I'm a model poster and you know it. I'm a purely positive influence on this forum Big smile.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#11 - 2012-11-01 16:20:48 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
I Will Save you all.

Thanks Alice :D
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#12 - 2012-11-01 16:21:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
At least we will have something to do with the endless Tech ISK faucet the bears keep screaming about.
Too bad that tech isn't an ISK faucet (or that the new bounty system isn't an ISK sink).

Shhhh, don't tell them that. Blink
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2012-11-01 16:21:51 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2012-11-01 16:24:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.

Yeah, okay. Thanks for your insight.
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-11-01 16:25:32 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:


[...] Alternatively, it could also lead to the fiery death of EvE.



Sometimes you don't need to read the first sentence, but the last sentence to identify the quality of a post.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#16 - 2012-11-01 16:27:14 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Sometimes you don't need to read the first sentence, but the last sentence to identify the quality of a post.


Thanks, I take pride in my work.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#17 - 2012-11-01 16:27:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.


Actually!

I think it was stated in the dev blog that if an account goes inactive, the ISK placed in the bounty dissapears. So it will be an ISK sink, of a sort.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#18 - 2012-11-01 16:30:08 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.


Actually!

I think it was stated in the dev blog that if an account goes inactive, the ISK placed in the bounty dissapears. So it will be an ISK sink, of a sort.


So unsub for a day and no more bounty?
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-11-01 16:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Some Rando
Tippia wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.

Honestly, this is all academic and no one cares. The important thing is that a carebear has left the game.

CCP has no sense of humour.

dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2012-11-01 16:31:05 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It is when people quit the game and take your ISK with them.
No. Partly because the ISK isn't gone, and partly because it has nothing to do with bounties.

Either way, it's not a sink.


Actually!

I think it was stated in the dev blog that if an account goes inactive, the ISK placed in the bounty dissapears. So it will be an ISK sink, of a sort.


But that goes for the isk in an account itself too. Of course that would be an isk sink, but it hasnt got anything to do with bounties primarily
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