EVE General Discussion

I think it boils down to this quite simply. If the OP cannot reasonably fathom being on the receiving end of his own suggestions, they are probably terrible suggestions. Thus, they are probably terrible suggestions.

I like the idea of players policing highsec... but I think we should wait JUST a few months before seriously considering this. I'm super stoked for the killrights system and the bounty hunting system... and wardecs are already 1000 times better than they were a few months ago. Let's wait and see what happens in December! Restraint isn't my strong suit in most of these forum discussions usually... but I'm making an exception here because I think the stuff we have coming into the game with retributions is going to stir the pot quite a bit already.

Agree, this is easy fix. Also any clones in high security are non operational
Til security status improves. You want to be bad guy, stay in low/null.

When those lowsec pirates gank you, they are in turn killed by concord, there is already a cost. I am not putting words in your mouth, I am saying simply, ask yourself if you'd be perfectly fine with being on the receiving end of every suggestion you made as a highsec player.

Take every suggestion you made, replace the word "pirate" or "ganker" with "player policeman" or "carebear" or whatever term you like to use when labeling your own particular playstyle, and tell me if you still find them to be good ideas.

The criminal loses their ship and sec status. Not enough? Shoot them too.

Next you'll complain about bumping.

Actually in real life, its not guaranteed that you will be instantaneously killed by omnipotent concord space ships every time you commit a crime. So that is a terrible analogy. Even if you were to wax philosophical on this idea, crime in real life does not necessarily equate to punishment, it is a risk which equates to the possibility of punishment. By your logic and application of this analogy, we should probably implement the ability to gank and allow for the possibility that if said ganker is quick enough or clever enough, they can simply escape altogether. Additionally, you could go further and add that if there are no witnesses, said ganker does not even take a hit to their security status, since no one saw it occur.

As someone who has never been a pirate in EvE. This is a terrible idea.

My 'player police' plan is better in every way and perfectly viable in the current game.

Not true according to the lore. A capuleer that worked for one of the faction navies abandoned his position and became a wanted fellon. It was a big deal for him to NOT die, because his clones were under guard.

He eventually sacrifices himself I believe, knowing that he would spend his time in prison.

There's such a thing as suicide watch.


Aside from that several of the things the OP listed are already in the game.
The flagging sytem is effectively "a record" of criminal activity.
The bounty system allows you free kill rights, as does one of those "activity records" IE FFA flag.
Money is digital; not physical, nor should you ever be able to "seize" someone's money.
Destroying a capsuleers clones is consider a major offense, and not even CONCORD is really allowed to do such a thing.

The new crimewatch and bounty system should provide all the means for people to "police" high sec.

Otherwise the OP can play Face of Mankind, a horribly boring sandbox game that's failed a couple of times already, if this is the sort of thing he's looking for.

It's not wrong. The more you do it in police controlled territories, the more you will just run the risk of serious loss. It makes it fun. Now you can pop carebears and run from the cops, like a real pirate.

You have an amazing way of conflating arguments. You wouldn't need the police powers if high-sec gates can be locked, that's what those posters are saying. It would be awesome. Then carebears that want big profit have to risk lowsec but can be assured that no goons will be ruining their day if they work in highsec.