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Cultural elitism and the war against Pubdom - is this is the future of EVE?

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Den Arius
Monte Inc
#61 - 2012-10-31 12:47:47 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Den Arius wrote:

This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.



No, you're just madder then a bag full of cats, and you don't get that you really need to spend more time meeting real people and socialising rather then going onto internet forums or spaceship games, getting trolled due to previous situation vis a vis bag of cats and then going nuts when you take it personally.

This is like, what, the 3rd time I've seen you start publicly posting stuff which is just going to attract that sort of attention?



No need to get personal.

Bobb

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#62 - 2012-10-31 12:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Inquisitor Kitchner
Den Arius wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:


No, you're just madder then a bag full of cats, and you don't get that you really need to spend more time meeting real people and socialising rather then going onto internet forums or spaceship games, getting trolled due to previous situation vis a vis bag of cats and then going nuts when you take it personally.

This is like, what, the 3rd time I've seen you start publicly posting stuff which is just going to attract that sort of attention?



No need to get personal.



Just trying to give you some advice, as your personal experience is nothing to do with elitism and everything to do with how you have acted, but hey knock yourself out.

EDIT: Elaborated on post.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Den Arius
Monte Inc
#63 - 2012-10-31 12:50:49 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:


No, you're just madder then a bag full of cats, and you don't get that you really need to spend more time meeting real people and socialising rather then going onto internet forums or spaceship games, getting trolled due to previous situation vis a vis bag of cats and then going nuts when you take it personally.

This is like, what, the 3rd time I've seen you start publicly posting stuff which is just going to attract that sort of attention?



No need to get personal.



Just trying to give you some advice, but hey knock yourself out.


Will do.

Bobb

Anslo
Scope Works
#64 - 2012-10-31 12:51:16 UTC
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?

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Den Arius
Monte Inc
#65 - 2012-10-31 12:52:07 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?


I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.

Bobb

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#66 - 2012-10-31 12:56:19 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?


I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.


Good luck o7.

Weren't you perma'd?
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#67 - 2012-10-31 12:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Den Arius
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?


I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.


Good luck o7.

Weren't you perma'd?


Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.

Bobb

Helfeln Meathead
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-10-31 12:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Helfeln Meathead
Den Arius wrote:
The non-pubbies are frequently attacked verbally and physically by these alliances.

I was "attacked" by Mittens last night and it was glorious.
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#69 - 2012-10-31 13:04:03 UTC
Den Arius wrote:

Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.


So when you are asked pointed questions about your past behavior, you want to distance yourself from it, where you tried to use the same past to your advantage just a few posts earlier. Haha.

It boggles my mind that you were allowed back into EVE.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#70 - 2012-10-31 13:04:10 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?


I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.


Good luck o7.

Weren't you perma'd?


Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.


I see a lot of threads wherein pubbies say "Let's work together to stop goons"

I have yet to see a decent attempt at it or a good reason as to why goons should be stopped.
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#71 - 2012-10-31 13:05:34 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP? What?


I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.


Good luck o7.

Weren't you perma'd?


Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.


I see a lot of threads wherein pubbies say "Let's work together to stop goons"

I have yet to see a decent attempt at it or a good reason as to why goons should be stopped.


There is one simply reason why they should be stopped. They upset people.

Bobb

Groce
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-10-31 13:07:28 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
He tried to get into TEST ... let me guess here, I think I got it ... he contracted over stuff or gave money.

Haha

It seems he was refused because he makes too many dumb threads on Reddit.

Look at his posting here.

Is this in any way a surprise to anyone here, at all?


That (d)reddit screens people based on post quality?

Yes, that is pretty shocking considering the site is a nexus of bad posting
Robert De'Arneth
#73 - 2012-10-31 13:09:57 UTC
Well people need to get a sense of humor then. If you let people in a game that is supposed to be fun upset you, maybe games are not your best outlet for fun. Big smile

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Fred Lodenstane
Lizard Ltd
#74 - 2012-10-31 13:10:24 UTC
Preencleeve,

Please stop posting and get some professional help. This culture of elitism that you're trying to campaign against really isn't there. I'm in Dreddit with a reddit account that has zero posts to it, and beyond the trash talking in local there is no elitist attitude that all TESTies and Goons have toward the rest of EVE. Sure we sperg about our enemies and point out their flaws, but that's no different than any other coalition or alliance in the game. Goons and TEST rejected you because of who you are, not because of their origins or cultural perspective.

Just stop while your right now. You need to step away from the computer and go have a real life. Find some to talk to who will hear you out, a friend or a professional, and sort out your problems. That's my professional opinion as an educator.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#75 - 2012-10-31 13:10:37 UTC
Den Arius wrote:


There is one simply reason why they should be stopped. They upset people.



Wait what? They hurt people's feelings?!?!?! EvilEvilEvilEvilEvil

Now I must denounce anyone from Goons or Dreddit. Death to the elites!

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Anslo
Scope Works
#76 - 2012-10-31 13:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
OP you're moving a bit...quickly and a bit too grandiose for your own good Smile Take a step back and plan goals one thing at a time!

Highsec won't just suddenly rally to stop the goons when most highsec players don't even know they exist Blink

Fred Lodenstane wrote:
Preencleeve, Please stop posting and get some professional help.
I don't know, I kind of like his energy towards it all! Just a little uh...unfocused.

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Den Arius
Monte Inc
#77 - 2012-10-31 13:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Den Arius
Fred Lodenstane wrote:
Preencleeve,

Please stop posting and get some professional help. This culture of elitism that you're trying to campaign against really isn't there. I'm in Dreddit with a reddit account that has zero posts to it, and beyond the trash talking in local there is no elitist attitude that all TESTies and Goons have toward the rest of EVE. Sure we sperg about our enemies and point out their flaws, but that's no different than any other coalition or alliance in the game. Goons and TEST rejected you because of who you are, not because of their origins or cultural perspective.

Just stop while your right now. You need to step away from the computer and go have a real life. Find some to talk to who will hear you out, a friend or a professional, and sort out your problems. That's my professional opinion as an educator.


What do you teach? If you think a few posts on the internet means you should get professional help...

"Hi doc, I posted on the internet and was told to get professional help."

Bobb

Fred Lodenstane
Lizard Ltd
#78 - 2012-10-31 13:15:47 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Fred Lodenstane wrote:
Preencleeve,

Please stop posting and get some professional help. This culture of elitism that you're trying to campaign against really isn't there. I'm in Dreddit with a reddit account that has zero posts to it, and beyond the trash talking in local there is no elitist attitude that all TESTies and Goons have toward the rest of EVE. Sure we sperg about our enemies and point out their flaws, but that's no different than any other coalition or alliance in the game. Goons and TEST rejected you because of who you are, not because of their origins or cultural perspective.

Just stop while your right now. You need to step away from the computer and go have a real life. Find some to talk to who will hear you out, a friend or a professional, and sort out your problems. That's my professional opinion as an educator.


What do you teach?


I'm in special education so a little of everything. I mostly work with kids with emotional or behavioral issues. I can't say for sure if you would be recommended for one of my classrooms (it's not easy to assess someone over forum posts, chat logs, and sound bytes) but based on what I've heard and seen your best option is stepping away from the keyboard and talking to someone face to face who will hear you out.
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#79 - 2012-10-31 13:18:11 UTC
Fred Lodenstane wrote:
Den Arius wrote:
Fred Lodenstane wrote:
Preencleeve,

Please stop posting and get some professional help. This culture of elitism that you're trying to campaign against really isn't there. I'm in Dreddit with a reddit account that has zero posts to it, and beyond the trash talking in local there is no elitist attitude that all TESTies and Goons have toward the rest of EVE. Sure we sperg about our enemies and point out their flaws, but that's no different than any other coalition or alliance in the game. Goons and TEST rejected you because of who you are, not because of their origins or cultural perspective.

Just stop while your right now. You need to step away from the computer and go have a real life. Find some to talk to who will hear you out, a friend or a professional, and sort out your problems. That's my professional opinion as an educator.


What do you teach?


I'm in special education so a little of everything. I mostly work with kids with emotional or behavioral issues. I can't say for sure if you would be recommended for one of my classrooms (it's not easy to assess someone over forum posts, chat logs, and sound bytes) but based on what I've heard and seen your best option is stepping away from the keyboard and talking to someone face to face who will hear you out.


People aren't always who they seem on the internet.

Bobb

Dave stark
#80 - 2012-10-31 13:19:51 UTC
Den Arius wrote:
Test Alliance is regularly rejecting 2 year + active posters on Reddit because they're posting several threads everyday.


got to here and stopped reading, because it's complete bollocks.

i was in test a few months ago, when they'd just started to fight in the south. i don't post on reddit, never even been on reddit. you're talking complete ****.
also, the people in test are great.

if you want to post something against a group of people, you might want to get your facts straight. at the very least, you may want to stop using one off cases and infrequent events to try and prove a point, it just makes you look foolish.