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Robert De'Arneth
#61 - 2012-10-31 13:22:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert De'Arneth
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.

I'm very much a "live and let live" type in game and in real life, but the more I hear this whining and crying from the most protected and coddled class of players in this game (the high sec crowd), the more I end up wanting to raise the virtual black flag and start slitting virtual throats....

Where do I sign up to start bumping and suicide ganking miners???


Another Agent of the New Order is born? Funny how miners being so greedy and self-entitled only exacerbates things.



Shiver me timbers another bumper who will not affect the end results at all, whatever will we do. Big smile I made 3.2 bill last week, on pace 5.8 this week, and your bumping and bumpers cannot stop it!! LOL. You guys do make me laugh a lot. You will never effect my bottom line, that is a fact. Big smile

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
White Quake
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-10-31 13:23:34 UTC
bufnitza calatoare wrote:

When a pvp player "pays" to play EvE Online, they should not then be forced to play how a Noob PvE pilot demands he does, it is beyond selfish.


In other words. don't force others to play your way, its a double edge sword.




No PVE pilot has ever forced a PVP pilot to PVE, this a nonsensical argument and makes no sense and is simply a way of PvP pilots justifying themselves getting involved in PvE nerfs.

Immature
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#63 - 2012-10-31 13:24:01 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.


The thing is, the OP is one of the people he is arguing against. He sits on gates with his friends waiting for solo faction BSes to show up so he can gank them.

Oh god.
White Quake
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-10-31 13:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: White Quake
Riot Girl wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.


The thing is, the OP is one of the people he is arguing against. He sits on gates with his friends waiting for solo faction BSes to show up so he can gank them.


we take anything stupid enough to enter low sec/nul sec without a scout, if they are that stupid, they deserve to die

But my very small corp os 12 made from rl mates since 2004 has never once ganked a miner in high sec or voted to nerf missions or incursions because IT DOESN'T effect us. Do you understand?

I will kill freighters/miners/haulers in low sec / null sec because they don't have escorts or guards and in my opinion this is stupid. HOWEVER to gank people in empire, is cowardly and not real pvp. Your not pvping ur shooting people who have no skill and cannot fight back.

your killing ships that cant fire back, its cowards work for pvp pilots who can't pvp in null. A mining corp attacked our three vindictators in low sec last night with 12 bc's, we killed them all with no loss. That is the way i will fight, not i empire docking as soon as the corp of carebears i decked has to many members olinr

don't confuse my argument with a PvE pilot, i just don't have a huge ego like most of this forum does.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#65 - 2012-10-31 13:35:27 UTC
White Quake wrote:
if they are that stupid, they deserve to die

That's all I needed to read, thanks.

Oh god.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#66 - 2012-10-31 13:44:46 UTC
White Quake wrote:
Bleating.

Thank you for demonstrating your grasp of the big picture.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#67 - 2012-10-31 13:45:05 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.

I'm very much a "live and let live" type in game and in real life, but the more I hear this whining and crying from the most protected and coddled class of players in this game (the high sec crowd), the more I end up wanting to raise the virtual black flag and start slitting virtual throats....

Where do I sign up to start bumping and suicide ganking miners???


Another Agent of the New Order is born? Funny how miners being so greedy and self-entitled only exacerbates things.



Shiver me timbers another bumper who will not affect the end results at all, whatever will we do. Big smile I made 3.2 bill last week, on pace 5.8 this week, and your bumping and bumpers cannot stop it!! LOL. You guys do make me laugh a lot. You will never effect my bottom line, that is a fact. Big smile


Another bingo tile down, thanks.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-10-31 13:45:52 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.

I'm very much a "live and let live" type in game and in real life, but the more I hear this whining and crying from the most protected and coddled class of players in this game (the high sec crowd), the more I end up wanting to raise the virtual black flag and start slitting virtual throats....

Where do I sign up to start bumping and suicide ganking miners???


Another Agent of the New Order is born? Funny how miners being so greedy and self-entitled only exacerbates things.



Shiver me timbers another bumper who will not affect the end results at all, whatever will we do. Big smile I made 3.2 bill last week, on pace 5.8 this week, and your bumping and bumpers cannot stop it!! LOL. You guys do make me laugh a lot. You will never effect my bottom line, that is a fact. Big smile

Well, have fun come 12/4.

It'll be interesting to see how you're not effected when everyone in high sec can get paid to blow you up.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-10-31 13:52:01 UTC
White Quake wrote:
HOWEVER to gank people in empire, is cowardly and not real pvp.

Sigh. I hate to point this out but it technically is real PvP because both parties are players and, you know, Player versus Player and all that...

Unless one of them isn't a player... Shocked

CCP has no sense of humour.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#70 - 2012-10-31 13:58:47 UTC
White Quake wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.


The thing is, the OP is one of the people he is arguing against. He sits on gates with his friends waiting for solo faction BSes to show up so he can gank them.


we take anything stupid enough to enter low sec/nul sec without a scout, if they are that stupid, they deserve to die

But my very small corp os 12 made from rl mates since 2004 has never once ganked a miner in high sec or voted to nerf missions or incursions because IT DOESN'T effect us. Do you understand?

I will kill freighters/miners/haulers in low sec / null sec because they don't have escorts or guards and in my opinion this is stupid. HOWEVER to gank people in empire, is cowardly and not real pvp. Your not pvping ur shooting people who have no skill and cannot fight back.

your killing ships that cant fire back, its cowards work for pvp pilots who can't pvp in null. A mining corp attacked our three vindictators in low sec last night with 12 bc's, we killed them all with no loss. That is the way i will fight, not i empire docking as soon as the corp of carebears i decked has to many members olinr

don't confuse my argument with a PvE pilot, i just don't have a huge ego like most of this forum does.


Evidence of hypocricy. It's ok to shoot people who can't fight back as long as your won't get concorded for it.

Worse than that, the part I highlighted shows a lack of understanding of the game. EVERYTHING you do that generates any isk, any lp, and materials at all affects everyone else in this mulitplayer game (by lowering the value of things possessed by other people in the game).

The high sec "carebear" wants to be free to have an affect on other players, but resist the very idea of BEING affected by other players by other means. This is the problem I have with them, they are the perfect example of wanting to "have your cake and eat it too".
Robert De'Arneth
#71 - 2012-10-31 14:00:36 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.

I'm very much a "live and let live" type in game and in real life, but the more I hear this whining and crying from the most protected and coddled class of players in this game (the high sec crowd), the more I end up wanting to raise the virtual black flag and start slitting virtual throats....

Where do I sign up to start bumping and suicide ganking miners???


Another Agent of the New Order is born? Funny how miners being so greedy and self-entitled only exacerbates things.



Shiver me timbers another bumper who will not affect the end results at all, whatever will we do. Big smile I made 3.2 bill last week, on pace 5.8 this week, and your bumping and bumpers cannot stop it!! LOL. You guys do make me laugh a lot. You will never effect my bottom line, that is a fact. Big smile

Well, have fun come 12/4.

It'll be interesting to see how you're not effected when everyone in high sec can get paid to blow you up.


not worried mate, because I know how the new changes work, you might want to read them. Big smile

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-10-31 14:04:19 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

....

Sad. Switching your hateread toward goons to some inocent carebears makes you nothing else that a carebear. What you gonna do from now on, raid the ice fields and bitching all day long on forums about miners instead of hunting the hunters? Pfff...
Savnire Jacitu
Undead Retirement Crypt
#73 - 2012-10-31 14:09:13 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Players who like Pve will not suddenly start doing PvP. They will leave the game. And then you cannot shoot them. Whats the point of driving away all the targets?


False, I got sick of being killed and started doing PvP. I still get kill but on my terms now, and when I do the killing it is a much better expierence than any other part of this game. Hell even when I die I still have more fun.

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#74 - 2012-10-31 14:09:47 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

....

Sad. Switching your hateread toward goons to some inocent carebears makes you nothing else that a carebear. What you gonna do from now on, raid the ice fields and bitching all day long on forums about miners instead of hunting the hunters? Pfff...


That's the thing, the "carebears" aren't "innocent".

The only times Goons have had an affect on me personally is when they've blown up my combat ships when I was in Atlas....and IT.....and -A-....and NCDot lol (like I've said, i've been on the anti-Goon side a LONG time), but at least they have the nutt-sacktuional fortitude to actually FACE ME in a fight, where as these "innocent carebears" can only muster a teresly worded forum post against me while to mine/mission/incursion the economy into the ground lol.

I'm not quite a goon lover yet, but i support their "emergent gameplayin" them carebears to tears.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#75 - 2012-10-31 14:12:20 UTC
Nobody hates HiSec bears.

What people hate is the attitude of entitlement that a lot of HiSec bears display. They seem to think they're entitled to immunity from any and all aggressive acts from other players.


Some of us like to disabuse HiSec bears of their sense of entitlement.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#76 - 2012-10-31 14:17:21 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Nobody hates HiSec bears.

What people hate is the attitude of entitlement that a lot of HiSec bears display. They seem to think they're entitled to immunity from any and all aggressive acts from other players.


Some of us like to disabuse HiSec bears of their sense of entitlement.


Have a like sir!
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#77 - 2012-10-31 14:25:52 UTC
Geligdio Khan wrote:
And if people say "if you Nerf the thing we like we will quit" then what is the point of courting them to stay in the game, they're gonna rage quit over something at some point.


I agree!

A business should cater to it's loyal customers, not to the wishy washy ones!

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Prince Kobol
#78 - 2012-10-31 14:27:21 UTC
White Quake wrote:
lots of stuff .


Question, I have toons in both Null and HS so does that mean I am against myself?
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#79 - 2012-10-31 14:33:10 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The more I read crap like the OP, the more I begin to understand why groups like the Goons exist. I've been fighting goons since my very 1st day as a shave-tail null sec newbie in Atlas Alliance up till now so I've always equate "Goon" with "Assclown" but now, not so much.

And it's because of these people like the OP and the high sec ONLY carebears and zealots hiding behind CONCORD's (ie CCP's) Skirts while being brave enough to talk trash on the forums.

I'm very much a "live and let live" type in game and in real life, but the more I hear this whining and crying from the most protected and coddled class of players in this game (the high sec crowd), the more I end up wanting to raise the virtual black flag and start slitting virtual throats....

Where do I sign up to start bumping and suicide ganking miners???


Another Agent of the New Order is born? Funny how miners being so greedy and self-entitled only exacerbates things.



Shiver me timbers another bumper who will not affect the end results at all, whatever will we do. Big smile I made 3.2 bill last week, on pace 5.8 this week, and your bumping and bumpers cannot stop it!! LOL. You guys do make me laugh a lot. You will never effect my bottom line, that is a fact. Big smile

Well, have fun come 12/4.

It'll be interesting to see how you're not effected when everyone in high sec can get paid to blow you up.


not worried mate, because I know how the new changes work, you might want to read them. Big smile


Adding to the bounty pool on this disgusting carebear. We can make sure it's worthwhile for people to suicide gank you again and again.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#80 - 2012-10-31 14:35:29 UTC
White Quake wrote:

No PVE pilot has ever forced a PVP pilot to PVE


How exactly does one play this game without PVP? Here is the challenge: this person might as well be playing offline with an out-of-game chatbox open and it would be 100% the same.

If you think about it, it's impossible.

This is why your argument is invalid as your are by default involved in competition.