EVE General Discussion

No maam, I'm saying that people like the OP would be perfectly happy if CCP did something like make PvP non viable in high sec, because obviously high sec pvp is only happening because we're not forced to shoot at each other.

By doing that they're showing they would be perfectly happy if high sec turned into a themepark where you just fly around and farm all day with no worry about losing anything.

High sec is most deffinately not a themepark, and I hope that it never becomes one, because it would ruin the market and economic side of the game that many of us play EVE for.

Goons don't want to make the game unfun, we want the game to be more fun.

The only people that think we want to make EVE unfun are the poeple that already dislike PvP. Those guys are the ones that want to make EVE unfun by removing high sec pvp.

No one should be able to hide in an an NPC corp to avoid pvp, and there seems to be a number of people who think that that is what the NPC corps are there for.


Maybe if some of these groups that are supposed to be dedicated to teaching new players in EVE stopped teaching people to dock up when there's a war dec so they don't lose a ship, fewer people would be complaining about how unfun it is to PvP in EVE, and they'd learn to be less risk averse in the process.

Trying to understand where you are coming from so please do not take offense, but I am pretty certian you told us yesterday you do not pvp.

Can you point me to the dev blog where they said high sec will ever be risk free, I would not mind reading this.

He is actually right...

According to everyone else on the GD, there is already lots of PvP. So there is no way to remove it. Buying and selling is PvP according to them. So you have to be wrong in most of your post based on their definition of PvP.

You are saying fun is blowing people up or getting blown up (if I understand your definition of PvP). Not everyone wants that. That is the basic difference in most arguments in EVE. Some people think EVE is all about shooting/combat/blowing things up. Some people think EVE is all about everything else in the game. No one is wrong but it's how you define fun which causes the difference in opinions/sides.

So WTF is my point? We don't need any major changes. It's just fine the way it is.

(and I appreciate your thread because you are using PvP in the form which most people use it!!)

Unfotunetly PvP is the only activety in the game, where when people complain that it's not fun and something they don't want to do in high sec, changes get made to make it tougher.

CCP doesn't make mining less viable becaue, I imagine, the majority of people think it's unfun.

They don't make trading less viable because some find it unfun.

Manufacturing, invention, exploratioin, none of these things are made more tedious or less fun to the people that do enjoy those activeties, because other people find them unfun.

Interstingly, all those activities impact you whether you participate in them or not, but it's only pvp that gets screwed aroudn with because some peope think it's unfun.

We don't all have to like it, but we should all be accepting it because IT IS a part of the game.

Hey, some people don't like large scale pvp, or blobing, and they want CCP to change this. CCP has never limited the number of people that can engage in pvp at once outside of how many people the server can support in a given area; they infact developed technology to support "blobbing".

So why not allow people to flag themselves as pirates? with the mining/indy EHP buff concord doesn't have to be *instant* if you fit a damn shield tank to an exhumer. and a pirate flag would allow people to attack said person without concord intervention. but if you do, concord's not going to protect you for taking the law into your own hands. ganking a freighter automatically sets you to open season in high sec and you start getting shot on sight. bonus if concord autotallys a bounty on your ass worth 20% of the hull you fly, in similar fashion to the belt rat bounties.

Make it a month-long cooldown without shooting some indy and you'll get plenty of PvP opportunity in highsec. wouldn't even need to shoot indys after a point.

Basically make suicide gankers effectively war targets. it would draw PvP their way, and bluntly 99% of the people they suicide gank will just whine and ***** and cry and say things are broken, while a few people like me would be gleefully fitting a megathron to chase you down and die horribly to the inevitable ambush you've arranged with your buddies.

Is any of this workable? probably not, I'm not a game designer. But I think things could afford to be a little more dynamic, rather than X + Y = CONCORDUKEN!

But there should be consequences for pirate lifestyles. Dont ask me how to balance them out because I suck at that ****.

Plus no matter how many people you please, there will be a vocal minority who will scream about how you ruined the game. I don't see a risk-free highsec as anything but completely boring and I hang there. Belt rats in a .5 system can't even break the tanks on my indy ships so they're automatically discounted as a threat.

Eggads no.

no, more a status that lasts for a month that flags you as a criminal that can be shot on sight for plugging some tard at a highsec gate.

and I used it as an example, read the whole ******* thing carefully. I didn't believe it would be a good idea to implement and said so because i dont think as-written it would work.

i think Highsec PvP should be more dynamic than its current iteration.

And PvP flags the way other MMOs do it would be so ********.

"Ohai I just toasted fourteen hulks and a pair of providence freighters but I typed /PVP so in 15 minutes I'm free of consequences as long as I dont shoot anyone else."

Skimming the post for **** you immediately dont like without looking at the whole context is about as dumb as the people crying for suicide ganking to be bannable.

Hint: the point was boldface.

Edit: changed wouldn't to would so the sentence makes sense now and doesn't contradict my intent.