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Everybody is doing freighter ganks in High Sec now ...

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#121 - 2012-11-01 00:23:54 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Andski wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Andski wrote:
i'm shaking in my boots
I'm not surprised. It seems like a reasonable precursor to jumping for joy.


i don't know, those mission ravens are scary

sometimes they're even cap stable

Dont worry, one of my megathrons is cap stable.

Great. You can keep shooting forever.

Until you run out of ammo...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#122 - 2012-11-01 00:33:22 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Andski wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Andski wrote:
i'm shaking in my boots
I'm not surprised. It seems like a reasonable precursor to jumping for joy.


i don't know, those mission ravens are scary

sometimes they're even cap stable

Dont worry, one of my megathrons is cap stable.

Great. You can keep shooting forever.

Until you run out of ammo...

I can also run the MWD forever so when the ammo runs out I can bump them.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#123 - 2012-11-01 00:36:29 UTC
Ocih wrote:
113 replies, 31 of them from 4 people. All saying the same thing over and over. Going out of their way to derail people with trolls and snot shots. It's the same fucken thing thread after thread. Are they holding your fucken kids hostage, CCP?


There is exactly ONE way they could prevent freighter ganking from ever happening and thatr is completely preventing people from destroying a player ship in high sec. Nothing else will ever do and unless I am mistaken, this is not something CCP would approve anyway. It's as simple as that.

At most they might give them an EHP boost making them more resilient but that would only raise the bar of how much the hold must be worth to be profitable because you would need more talos to kill it...
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#124 - 2012-11-01 00:41:18 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
seriously though ocih, back to your idea

did you know there already is a nullsec ihub upgrade that lets you increase the chances of a wormhole opening?
only costs 1 bil for the ihub, not including the modules, and you have to maintain it by mining thousands of belt rats a day

and here you are suggesting giving it to us for free


Such a waste of a billion ISK. I spent a year in Pure Blind and never once had to use gates or bridges to get out. It doesn't work getting in though. Last time I tried in HS I ended up in Feythabolis region.

As for you other AFK PI warriors, glad to see we agree on one thing. PvE fits are garbage in Null. It explains why nobody is out there except alliance welfare pilots.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#125 - 2012-11-01 00:48:44 UTC
Ocih wrote:


As for you other AFK PI warriors, glad to see we agree on one thing. PvE fits are garbage in Null. It explains why nobody is out there except alliance welfare pilots.

I agree with this.

I don't understand why the NPC's aren't set up to reflect other players. I would think that a system that allows CCP to alter NPC ship quickly and easily so that they can adapt the NPC's to the players would be good.

The closer shooting an NPC gets to feeling like shooting another player the better. Players woudn't have to worry that they're at a disadvantage in pvp because they're fit for PvE, and it could get more players comfortable with shooting other players.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#126 - 2012-11-01 00:50:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Great. You can keep shooting forever.

Until you run out of ammo...

I can also run the MWD forever so when the ammo runs out I can bump them.

I was actually going to suggest you fit lasers to it, but ok.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#127 - 2012-11-01 00:53:31 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Ocih wrote:


As for you other AFK PI warriors, glad to see we agree on one thing. PvE fits are garbage in Null. It explains why nobody is out there except alliance welfare pilots.

I agree with this.

I don't understand why the NPC's aren't set up to reflect other players. I would think that a system that allows CCP to alter NPC ship quickly and easily so that they can adapt the NPC's to the players would be good.

The closer shooting an NPC gets to feeling like shooting another player the better. Players woudn't have to worry that they're at a disadvantage in pvp because they're fit for PvE, and it could get more players comfortable with shooting other players.


Would potentially serve as training wheels for PvP. I would support this too.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#128 - 2012-11-01 01:06:07 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Ocih wrote:


As for you other AFK PI warriors, glad to see we agree on one thing. PvE fits are garbage in Null. It explains why nobody is out there except alliance welfare pilots.

I agree with this.

I don't understand why the NPC's aren't set up to reflect other players. I would think that a system that allows CCP to alter NPC ship quickly and easily so that they can adapt the NPC's to the players would be good.

The closer shooting an NPC gets to feeling like shooting another player the better. Players woudn't have to worry that they're at a disadvantage in pvp because they're fit for PvE, and it could get more players comfortable with shooting other players.


Would potentially serve as training wheels for PvP. I would support this too.


No it wouldn't. It would just be easier for asshats to screw up a mission.

Everyone knows how to PvP in EVE. Blob the ever loving shite out of it.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#129 - 2012-11-01 01:08:50 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Ocih wrote:


As for you other AFK PI warriors, glad to see we agree on one thing. PvE fits are garbage in Null. It explains why nobody is out there except alliance welfare pilots.

I agree with this.

I don't understand why the NPC's aren't set up to reflect other players. I would think that a system that allows CCP to alter NPC ship quickly and easily so that they can adapt the NPC's to the players would be good.

The closer shooting an NPC gets to feeling like shooting another player the better. Players woudn't have to worry that they're at a disadvantage in pvp because they're fit for PvE, and it could get more players comfortable with shooting other players.


Would potentially serve as training wheels for PvP. I would support this too.


No it wouldn't. It would just be easier for asshats to screw up a mission.

Everyone knows how to PvP in EVE. Blob the ever loving shite out of it.


Using a pvp fit would let other people screw over your missioning more? How?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#130 - 2012-11-01 02:42:04 UTC
Quote:

I was actually going to suggest you fit lasers to it, but ok.

Funny you should say this as I am working on a slosh op laser raven.
Qin Tawate
Doomheim
#131 - 2012-11-01 22:51:25 UTC

Today the Goons killed only 1 freighter in Uedama. It had 3 bil ISK worth of load. Basically it had a lot of modules and some ships loaded, so it could have been also less or a little more. They were probably guessing the load was more worth.

So you cant be sure, even if you load Cargo for less than 2 Bil.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#132 - 2012-11-01 22:56:41 UTC
Qin Tawate wrote:

Today the Goons killed only 1 freighter in Uedama. It had 3 bil ISK worth of load. Basically it had a lot of modules and some ships loaded, so it could have been also less or a little more. They were probably guessing the load was more worth.

So you cant be sure, even if you load Cargo for less than 2 Bil.


It was more than that. You have too much faith in the ISK values given by killboards.

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#133 - 2012-11-01 22:58:33 UTC
Qin Tawate wrote:

Today the Goons killed only 1 freighter in Uedama. It had 3 bil ISK worth of load. Basically it had a lot of modules and some ships loaded, so it could have been also less or a little more. They were probably guessing the load was more worth.

So you cant be sure, even if you load Cargo for less than 2 Bil.


Someone using their freighter to haul ships and fittings around in High Sec. The atrocity of it all. How can you let this happen CCP? Everyone knows that guy was supposed to make 72 trips with fitted ships to get them to market.

3 billion, what's that work out to? half a dozen Battle Ships?

I have an Idea, CCP. Ditch the worthless velocity bonus for an Agi bonus.
Commander Spurty
#134 - 2012-11-01 22:58:42 UTC
Sounds like a thread that demands the 'SAFETY BUTTOM!"

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Qin Tawate
Doomheim
#135 - 2012-11-01 23:03:03 UTC
Andski wrote:
Qin Tawate wrote:

Today the Goons killed only 1 freighter in Uedama. It had 3 bil ISK worth of load. Basically it had a lot of modules and some ships loaded, so it could have been also less or a little more. They were probably guessing the load was more worth.

So you cant be sure, even if you load Cargo for less than 2 Bil.


It was more than that. You have too much faith in the ISK values given by killboards.


It does not matter Your scanner just saw lots of ships and modules and said, that should do it. It does not matter whether it was more or less than 2 Bil. Your scanner just thought, it should be enough. I did the easy freighter ganks myself. I know, how it works. In the end you had again an easy kill and more profit.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#136 - 2012-11-01 23:03:17 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Someone using their freighter to haul ships and fittings around in High Sec. The atrocity of it all. How can you let this happen CCP? Everyone knows that guy was supposed to make 72 trips with fitted ships to get them to market.

3 billion, what's that work out to? half a dozen Battle Ships?

I have an Idea, CCP. Ditch the worthless velocity bonus for an Agi bonus.


"ships and fittings"

yeah it was a Vargur, Tengu, Sleipnir, Hulk, Cynabal, and fittings for all 5 including faction mods

why can't I put my shiny mission ships into a freighter and autopilot through hisec this is SO unfair ((((((

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#137 - 2012-11-01 23:05:12 UTC
Qin Tawate wrote:
Your scanner just saw lots of ships and modules and said, that should do it


nobody who is serious about freighter ganking ballparks that stuff, the ISK value of a ship's cargo is pasted into an app that gives the actual value from eve-central

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2012-11-01 23:06:10 UTC
Skydell wrote:
I have an Idea, CCP. Ditch the worthless velocity bonus for an Agi bonus.

I have an idea: don't fly around with cargo which makes it very profitable to gank you.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Qin Tawate
Doomheim
#139 - 2012-11-01 23:06:14 UTC
Andski wrote:
Skydell wrote:
Someone using their freighter to haul ships and fittings around in High Sec. The atrocity of it all. How can you let this happen CCP? Everyone knows that guy was supposed to make 72 trips with fitted ships to get them to market.

3 billion, what's that work out to? half a dozen Battle Ships?

I have an Idea, CCP. Ditch the worthless velocity bonus for an Agi bonus.


"ships and fittings"

yeah it was a Vargur, Tengu, Sleipnir, Hulk, Cynabal, and fittings for all 5 including faction mods

why can't I put my shiny mission ships into a freighter and autopilot through hisec this is SO unfair ((((((


That is also wrong. It does not matter, whether a freighter pilot autopilots or not. If he jumps in the suicide gankers, he is toast. Log off will not save him either usually.

Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#140 - 2012-11-01 23:06:37 UTC
Strange how I've never been ganked.... I even fly a Charon into LowSec :|

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