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Everybody is doing freighter ganks in High Sec now ...

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#81 - 2012-10-31 21:38:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
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Hisec is supposed to be safe for commerce, business, travel even if it has some risk.


If you define "some risk" as "if I do stupid things there is a high likelyhood that my ship will be destroyed and any suviving loot stolen before I can get my pod away" then yes.

As for the rest of your post... Big smile

PS: I think someone filled your breast implants with Hydrogen by mistake.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-10-31 21:50:06 UTC
Baroness Vulna wrote:
CCP allowing hisec ganks to continue too much just shoots themselves in the foot, as in cost them money.

"hurr ccp had better make eve's next expansion called trammel before they go bust!"

Baroness Vulna wrote:
I predict when CCP makes hisec far safer they will see an increase in revenue and it will force little griefer/pirate boys to move to lowsec and nulsec where they will probably die in a fire.

"if only CCP would make eve online: trammel, they would be filthy rich! riiiiiich! riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich!"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#83 - 2012-10-31 21:51:07 UTC
Baroness Vulna wrote:
CCP allowing hisec ganks to continue too much just shoots themselves in the foot, as in cost them money.

Hisec is supposed to be safe for commerce, business, travel even if it has some risk. However look at the parallel, hi sec is territorial water of the four major empires just as 12 miles off the coast of the USA is. Do you think the USA would "continue" to allow pirates to sink merchant ships in its territorial water in peacetime? Of course not. So why there are not more penalties to it in EVE hisec is beyond me, i mean...this is the future after all...far more advanced and enlightened supposedly. So the more carebears that are ganked in hisec the more they will rage quit and cost ccp money and stunt the future of EVE...just saying.

Also, i think hisec gankers are just those who cant make it in nulsec so they find ways around the intended game design and exploit a weakness to blow up easy targets. Its always been going on, always will until CCP crushes it like they did isk farmers.

I predict when CCP makes hisec far safer they will see an increase in revenue and it will force little griefer/pirate boys to move to lowsec and nulsec where they will probably die in a fire.

/hugs

This weakness being the stupidity of freighter pilots who stuff 30 billion into their hold and then autopilot through a well known ambush system camped by an alliance that has stomped on just about everything in 0.0 in a game which sells itself as a dark, harsh and brutal pvp game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#84 - 2012-10-31 21:55:26 UTC
Baroness Vulna wrote:
CCP allowing hisec ganks to continue too much just shoots themselves in the foot, as in cost them money.
No, it really doesn't.

Quote:
Hisec is supposed to be safe for commerce, business, travel even if it has some risk.
No, it really isn't. Highsec is supposed to be a place where aggression comes at a cost, and the presumption is that this cost will trigger the average person's miserliness to the point where he doesn't shoot everyone around him without cause. That is the total extent of your safety: you are gambling that those around you will be too much a bunch of cheapskates to attack you. Occasionally, this gamble does not pay off, and the odds are drastically made worse if you ensure that the cost of attacking you is outweighed by any profit that can be made from your remains…
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#85 - 2012-10-31 22:19:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No, it really isn't. Highsec is supposed to be a place where aggression comes at a cost, and the presumption is that this cost will trigger the average person's miserliness to the point where he doesn't shoot everyone around him without cause. That is the total extent of your safety: you are gambling that those around you will be too much a bunch of cheapskates to attack you. Occasionally, this gamble does not pay off, and the odds are drastically made worse if you ensure that the cost of attacking you is outweighed by any profit that can be made from your remains…

Ganking ~profitably~ will be suitable nerfed in the future, I am confident.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-10-31 22:22:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No, it really isn't. Highsec is supposed to be a place where aggression comes at a cost, and the presumption is that this cost will trigger the average person's miserliness to the point where he doesn't shoot everyone around him without cause. That is the total extent of your safety: you are gambling that those around you will be too much a bunch of cheapskates to attack you. Occasionally, this gamble does not pay off, and the odds are drastically made worse if you ensure that the cost of attacking you is outweighed by any profit that can be made from your remains…

Ganking ~profitably~ will be suitable nerfed in the future, I am confident.

Dec 4th.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#87 - 2012-10-31 22:46:58 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ganking ~profitably~ will be suitable nerfed in the future, I am confident.



High Sec "profitable Ganking" should be nerfed. It's mathematical free loading nothing more.

I'm glad CCP have finally come down of their own high and accepted that they can't make code do things we can't condense to a statistic. Anyone trying to con you in to thinking that being allowed to destroy another customers experience is doing you a favor should be looked upon with a grain of salt.

You want everyone and their dog in Null?

Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#88 - 2012-10-31 22:50:44 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ganking ~profitably~ will be suitable nerfed in the future, I am confident.

High Sec "profitable Ganking" should be nerfed. It's mathematical free loading nothing more.

I'm glad CCP have finally come down of their own high and accepted that they can't make code do things we can't condense to a statistic. Anyone trying to con you in to thinking that being allowed to destroy another customers experience is doing you a favor should be looked upon with a grain of salt.

You want everyone and their dog in Null?

Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.

Oh, are the L4ing ravens going to reinforce our CSAAs?

Can't wait.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-10-31 22:50:57 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.

they'll jump through, see it's nullsec, **** their pants and run back to momma crying

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#90 - 2012-10-31 22:56:21 UTC
Ocih wrote:
High Sec "profitable Ganking" should be nerfed. It's mathematical free loading nothing more.
No and no, in roughly that order.

Profitable ganking should be rewarded — it's the only way to teach people not to be stupid.
Also, seeing as how it's not free, it can't really be free-loading, now can it?

Quote:
Anyone trying to con you in to thinking that being allowed to destroy another customers experience is doing you a favor should be looked upon with a grain of salt.
As luck would have it, “destroying another customer's experience” is rather the whole point of a game such as EVE, and making sure people understand this and stop having unrealistic expectations is indeed to do them a favour.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-10-31 22:59:30 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ganking ~profitably~ will be suitable nerfed in the future, I am confident.



High Sec "profitable Ganking" should be nerfed. It's mathematical free loading nothing more.
CCP already nerfed 'profitable ganking' when they put an in-game calculator into the client so freighter pilots can calculate max value of cargo before it becomes profitable to gank.

Quote:

Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.
lollllll


lolllll
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#92 - 2012-10-31 23:00:15 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.

they'll jump through, see it's nullsec, **** their pants and run back to momma crying


That's what you hope anyway.
Or they might AFK 30 Pilgrims for a few weeks. But hey, it will inject some of that glorious Risk we hear so much about.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2012-10-31 23:00:37 UTC
ocih...

ocih...

what will they do when the pos fires back at them
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2012-10-31 23:01:20 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.

they'll jump through, see it's nullsec, **** their pants and run back to momma crying


That's what you hope anyway.
Or they might AFK 30 Pilgrims for a few weeks. But hey, it will inject some of that glorious Risk we hear so much about.

have fun camping empty space, tell us how that goes for you in 3 weeks

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#95 - 2012-10-31 23:01:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:


Profitable ganking should be rewarded — it's the only way to teach people not to be stupid.
Also, seeing as how it's not free, it can't really be free-loading, now can it?



Gee, thanks Mom.
Now GTFO of my game you daft ****.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-10-31 23:02:58 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Tippia wrote:


Profitable ganking should be rewarded — it's the only way to teach people not to be stupid.
Also, seeing as how it's not free, it can't really be free-loading, now can it?



Gee, thanks Mom.
Now GTFO of my game you daft ****.

"guys guys this is a sandbox I can play the way I want

oh but wait, you get the **** out of my game you're not playing the game the way I want"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#97 - 2012-10-31 23:03:48 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Exploration Mission Agents. Spawned wormholes to null systems from High Sec.
Lets see how eager they are for 'emergent game play' when 30 Wormholes from High Sec spawn in your capital ship yard systems.

they'll jump through, see it's nullsec, **** their pants and run back to momma crying


That's what you hope anyway.
Or they might AFK 30 Pilgrims for a few weeks. But hey, it will inject some of that glorious Risk we hear so much about.

have fun camping empty space, tell us how that goes for you in 3 weeks


SBU's are cheap. Lets see how long it stays empty.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#98 - 2012-10-31 23:05:08 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Gee, thanks Mom.
You're welcome.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#99 - 2012-10-31 23:05:15 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Tippia wrote:


Profitable ganking should be rewarded — it's the only way to teach people not to be stupid.
Also, seeing as how it's not free, it can't really be free-loading, now can it?



Gee, thanks Mom.
Now GTFO of my game you daft ****.

"guys guys this is a sandbox I can play the way I want

oh but wait, you get the **** out of my game you're not playing the game the way I want"


And you shitpost here because SA would give you a 3 day.

Funny how you can't abide by your own rules.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-10-31 23:06:43 UTC
Ocih wrote:
And you shitpost here because SA would give you a 3 day.

Funny how you can't abide by your own rules.


fun fact: he doesn't have an SA account

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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