Warfare & Tactics

Your really sound like a bitter-vet.

What I mean with talking about fitting a mill ISK mod to a ship is that meany people seem to think that they need the best of the best to do anything useful and have fun. They just seem to forget that this is in most cases (there are exception) economically total non-sense.

So, you can today get a good Faction/T2 frigate including fitting for 30 to 40 Mill ISK. A faction cruiser with proper fitting goes for 80 Mill ISK. Both are very well capable to solo a level 2 medium plex. A medium plex gives you 10 Mill ISK from tags and loot alone. So even if not considering any LP gains, how many plexes do you need to pay off your T2 frigate? 4 and the faction cruser? 8. Now if you now take into account that you maybe as Amarr just take a Faction Frigate (Slicer is awesome!) or the Faction Cruisers by trading LP and selling the remaining LP for ISK you will maybe just need to run 2 plexes for the frigate and 4 plexes for the cruisers even if you are just at tier 2. So where exactly is the problem?

Run four plexes and you have one ship spare for crazy PVP... this will not cost you more than 2 hours max in the worst. Saying this, can you please now tell me where exactly is the problem with earning money and spending it for PVP in faction warefare and especially being on the Amarr side?

BTW: Before you answer "Meh I still get less LP" please take a look at the price of a Firetail and compare it to the price of a Slicer... you will see that Slicer is much more expensive. So you get much more ISK for your LP.

The Minmatar can do 2xs LP in respect of Amarr cause they worked for this. This the consequence of Amarr being for now the loosing side. You keep talking as it's the reason, as the game was cheatted or consequence of some plot. It's an effect not a cause, everyone started witht he same playground. Point is Amarr doing nothing to change this. And guess what? They don't cause it's fine for them so.

In the darkest age of the gunless plex farming Amarr simply had no interest in changing the status quo because for them was more convenient to cash out with their alts in minmatar militia.

I remember a drama about this forum about some Amarr alliance splitting cause their directors were blamed for pretending to have their farming alts flagged as blu by the others. Of course this lead to decay, but cannot blame the game mechanics or other players if the ammarr leadership is corrupted; work to fix it.

In all this months you folks had plenty of time to revert all this. But, sure, this would require some work and effort... much easyer to just whine on the forum while cashing at T5 with your alts.

The last change fix a lot of these issues; I think your problem now is simply that is no longer so easy using your alts in minmatar to earn bilons of ISK.

That is not true. It is not true at the start of inferno (when ccp decided to change the rules and make occupancy actually worth something) and it was not even true at the start of fw in general.

Right so you can grind it back up in peace and make 2xs the isk. Sorry if you want that you will have to roll an amarr alt. I won't be your alt for you.




Its not even a matter of my gameplay. Its just obviously what players choose to do - look at the number of people in amarr and minmatar before inferno and the economic consequences and after.

People will choose to get paid more money instead of less money for the same task. Why do you keep fighting this? And 2xs as much is not a minor amount.

My switching to or from amarr is not going to change this.

You should have made a minmatar alt and made 10 bill.

I frankly think both sides should have a few cul-de-sacs (3 systems, no more) and a relatively linear setup. My ideal solution would be to take jumps OUT of amarr space, making it harder for the Matar to roam it freely.

That said, the Hofja situation's a bit extreme, and a second way around should be set up.

Don't get me wrong though, I think Amarr specifically got boned on the patch (since Inferno). Whinedari is a whole other story. I think it all comes down to the outlook you have towards it. When the alt army first came the squids were smashing us. But the core gallente players stayed strong till we could finally hit tier 3 then the minnie farms joined the fight and we are were we are today.

I personally think they need to add enough systems to get you t3 with all lvl V and just make them yours. Then you and the ninnies can have it out again.

My opponents up here are richer than I am due to their ability to have more t5 and t4 cashouts than my militia. However, I and many others are able to keep the pace with them and kill them constantly due to superior tactics and strategy.

inb4 the next excuse.

Fweddit guy: "I don't care if minmatar can afford sfis as long as I can afford a t1 fit thrasher"

Hans: "AGREED! See, I listen to amarr concerns."




the rules make it so we will never get the numbers. "Join amarr and make less isk" is not really a good campaign slogan.

You might be on to something! :)

ISK IS FOR BABBIES!!11! JOIN TEH AMMAR!!