EVE General Discussion

It's true that anyone can claim control of anything. Outside of EVE, a government is considered legitimate if it has the enduring ability to send men with guns to kill or imprison other people. Upon this power hangs all the law. There's no need for philosophy here: When a miner is bumped out of mining range, he no longer has the ability to mine--and he does not even get a share of the ore/ice he mined from earlier in the laser's cycle, when he was in range. Therefore, I can stop people from mining whenever I want. Since the miners want to mine ice, and since I alone decide whether or not they can, I command them. It's really that simple.

In Freelancer when you die, you merely respawn with your ship and equipment in the last place you docked. Even in multiplayer! In fact, some servers didn't even take your cargo when you died meaning there is literally no loss except the 5 minutes of travel time!

Many servers (vanilla and modded) have either no pvp at all or, more commonly, pvp only after roleplay. This means that if you want to violence someone's boat you had to spend time roleplaying a pirate instead of just blapping them EVE style. This seems to be a carebear dream come true, since properly selecting your roleplay identity can keep you out of quite a bit of trouble. A common strategy is to spend 15 minutes roleplaying with the pirate while you're in a private convo with someone roleplaying a local police officer (who happens to fly a blapfit battleship) to come save you.

In this carebear friendly world, they must surely never complain right?

On the contrary, many servers put EVE carebear entitlement to shame. Ever think these forums are bad? Go to a freelancer roleplaying mod's official forum and you will see a new level of carebearism. Even though there is practically nothing lost from dying, and you can only be killed after proper roleplay ("engaging!", "2 mill or die" and "halt!" are not proper roleplay) people still manage to complain about there being too much risk!

People even complain about the PVE being too hard! But the most common complain of all is that they can't store any more credits on their characters because of the limitations of the 32bit integer. They are complaining about being so rich that the game can't even hold their money anymore.

No matter what you do, you cannot appease them. Freelancer and its various mods are fun and I still play online, but EVE is a completely different animal. I could enjoy a more EVE-like Freelancer, but never a more Freelancer-like EVE.

What can I do in EVE? The better question would be what CAN'T you do?

What you can be in EVE is all dependent on how much of an effort you want to put into it. Ultimately, EVE is all about its player driven universe. The storyline, the events, the structure of the game and its economy is all effected from the players of EVE. What they do on a daily basis, what Corporations they bring down, the ways they find to exploit other players -- all of it brings something to the table of CCP's development for EVE.

u atre a greefer

i cant evelieve i have to sharw the same internet with people like ytou you kind insult and insult me.

i have played freelancer and its a much better game than eve is because in those communities they DON'T GRIEF YOU OFF THE SERVER! they actually care about retainin players instead of just running them off and useing them as cannon fodder for the goons.

goons ruined eve and star trek online at least the goons havent ruined freelancer. at least the freelancer community understand that grown ups need to be nice to each other and nobody like a jackass.

I was just about to say, OP, welcome to the pantheon of "accused of being my alt"!

My my.

Please, continue to do your best. I suggest you join NC. in their upcoming last defence of Vale of the Silent.


Only YOU can turn the tide of a CFC sovereignty steamroller.