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Asuri Kinnes

Perkone

Caldari State

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#381 - 2012-11-02 00:07:58 UTC

Lord Zim wrote:

Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Don't write off wormholes so easily - you get out of it what you put into it...

I'm certainly not writing off WHs, I'm just pointing out the negatives, and if I weren't lazy enough to go to hisec to make money instead of ratting or whatever in nullsec, if local were removed I would've either moved to hisec or just say **** it and move to WHs, where the rewards are at least scaled up to match the effort and risk.

Quote fail?

I aimed that one at Touval (or whatever his name is).

<------- sicker'n hell with the creeping chest crud today.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Gallente Federation 2,451
Lord Zim Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,451	#382 - 2012-11-02 00:10:53 UTC I don't know. I felt it needed to be said anyhow, I guess people'll just have to deal wiz it. :P Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat

Natasha Liao

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 46

#383 - 2012-11-02 00:39:59 UTC

Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Andski wrote:

In my opinion, wormholes suck up a lot of talented players whose skills would otherwise be useful to newer organizations looking to move into nullsec. But that's another thread.

Yes we do.

You're welcome!

:P

While 'different' in one way, W-Space has the same drawbacks as presented for Null IMO. I *HATED* 6+ WH routes in and out of your 'home' and then the fact the K-Space exit was in some backwoods BFE system 20 jumps from anyplace 'decent'. Logistics was a major undertaking. When the corp I was in moved to a different c6 the guys were running freighters full of our stuff from one factions space to another. Then it was 2 or 3 jumps through Low and another 2 or 3 'home'. Want to/need to make something? Better hope you have it on hand or have a decent route. Wanna play the market? Might as well forget that activity.

W-Space is fun, it's challenging, you'll learn a lot and do a lot. But a good part of 'civilization' can be a long ways away. Be prepared to rough it.

You're using logic on an internet discussion forum. A rookie mistake, but one you'll soon learn to avoid. -Destiny Corrupted

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

Likes received: 6,953

#384 - 2012-11-02 03:32:01 UTC

Lord Zim wrote:

Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Don't write off wormholes so easily - you get out of it what you put into it...

For now anyway. After highsec gets buffed enough, it'll not be the case.

But rejoice, your L4s and belts of rocks will still be ready to accept you when you finally give in to CCP's vision of:

Highsec Online

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2,368
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#385 - 2012-11-02 06:36:39 UTC Geligdio Khan wrote: If you want to be safe you must put up with being poor, if you want to be rich you should take risks. Sounds like you're asking CCP to destroy the big nullsec corps are alliances. What a horrible thing, the Nullbears will be mad. ~ Professional Forum Alt ~

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

Likes received: 609

#386 - 2012-11-02 07:53:57 UTC

Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:

That doesn't mean we have to accept the badly made, disingenuous arguments of some buttmad highsec carebear who starts making dumbass taunts whenever its calmly explained to him why his "idea" is bad.

seems everything i say is dumb and everything you guys say is soooo right.

your space is ****** and you want to **** my space to fix your space.

and i'm a "buttmad highsec carebear making dumbass taunts" because of it.

**** me brother. spare a dime? i need to pee.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Touval Lysander

Zero Wine

Likes received: 609

#387 - 2012-11-02 07:59:10 UTC

Alavaria Fera wrote:

so how much will it take to get you to emoragequitihatethisgamenow or you guys just gonna whine all day and night?

maybe if you nullwhiners stopped and did a emoragequitihatethisgamenow, this forum would die too yeah? be nothing for anyone to read.

Guys, Eve is dying because [insert any 5 of the CFC alliance poasters here] said so. waaaa... waaaa...

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Ghazu

Likes received: 718

#388 - 2012-11-02 08:04:02 UTC

Touval Lysander wrote:

Alavaria Fera wrote:

Actually, we were hoping for the opposite, move all lvls 4s incursions etc and ice to lowsec and watch the whiners :notquit:

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Nicolo da'Vicenza

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 3,706

#389 - 2012-11-02 08:37:54 UTC

Touval Lysander wrote:

Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:

Awww Touval, you assumed I was talking about you.


Lord Zim Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,451	#390 - 2012-11-02 08:42:34 UTC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48emaMVhnBU Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat

Terminal Insanity

KarmaFleet

Goonswarm Federation

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#391 - 2012-11-02 09:17:23 UTC

I think i should be allowed to stay in highsec, and mine safely knowing concord will kill my aggressors before im dead. I want to do nothing but mine for hours on end and collect all the best lvl70 deathknigth armor for my golem so that i can trot around highsec showing off to everyone how awesome i am at this game

Thats why people play eve, And pirates are ruining this game for everyone. Pirates should just all be banned no nullsec by allowing anyone who's committed a crime in the past to be gang-bang'able by anyone else .

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Lord Zim

Gallente Federation

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#392 - 2012-11-02 09:20:51 UTC

Terminal Insanity wrote:

I think i should be allowed to stay in highsec

This is already the case.

Terminal Insanity wrote:

and mine safely knowing concord will kill my aggressors before im dead.

Tank your ship, and more often than not you will.

Terminal Insanity wrote:

And pirates are ruining this game for everyone.

Nope.

Terminal Insanity wrote:

Pirates should just all be banned no nullsec by allowing anyone who's committed a crime in the past to be gang-bang'able by anyone else .

You're in luck, eve online: trammel lite is coming soon with crimewatch 2.0

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Mirima Thurander

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#393 - 2012-11-02 09:54:42 UTC

At the same time you do this remove null local so I can sneaking around and shoot null players while they try to mine.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.


Lord Zim Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,451	#394 - 2012-11-02 09:55:51 UTC Mirima Thurander wrote: At the same time you do this remove null local so I can sneaking around and shoot null players while they try to mine. You mean the null players who'll be in hisec? Good luck with that. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat

Mirima Thurander

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#395 - 2012-11-02 09:59:22 UTC

Lord Zim wrote:

Mirima Thurander wrote:

At the same time you do this remove null local so I can sneaking around and shoot null players while they try to mine.

You mean the null players who'll be in hisec?

Good luck with that.

Because there all care bears at heart cuz when things get hard on them they act just like highsec pubbies and cry.

Lord Zim

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,451

#396 - 2012-11-02 10:03:41 UTC

Mirima Thurander wrote:

Lord Zim wrote:

Mirima Thurander wrote:

At the same time you do this remove null local so I can sneaking around and shoot null players while they try to mine.

You mean the null players who'll be in hisec?

Good luck with that.

Because there all care bears at heart cuz when things get hard on them they act just like highsec pubbies and cry.

I assume there's some sort of punchline in there somewhere, but I'm not seeing it. Care to point it out?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Herzog Wolfhammer

Sigma Special Tactics Group

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#397 - 2012-11-02 17:11:12 UTC

NARDAC wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

[quote=NARDAC]

No local works in WHs because no gates/easy access.

Does it really? last time I checked a quarterly report, it was something under 5% of the EVE population that lives in wormholes (2% if I recall).

I think lack of local is a HUGE part of why there are so few people there. This is a hint of what would happen to low/null if they removed local from there.

Kind of like what would happen to High sec without Concorde.

Carebears carebears EVERYWHERE.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Herzog Wolfhammer

Sigma Special Tactics Group

Likes received: 8,697

#398 - 2012-11-02 17:17:40 UTC

Lord Zim wrote:

Mirima Thurander wrote:

At the same time you do this remove null local so I can sneaking around and shoot null players while they try to mine.

You mean the null players who'll be in hisec?

Good luck with that.

So...

Remove Concorde and high sec quits the game.

Remove local in 0.0 and nullsec moves to high sec.

hurr durr

Wow what a bunch of risk averse carebears.

If you are worried about some stealth bomber taking out your PVP ship in null, then you need to tank properly.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!


Nicolo da'Vicenza Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 3,706	#399 - 2012-11-02 17:19:03 UTC Get it now Touval?

Lord Zim

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,451

#400 - 2012-11-02 17:27:23 UTC

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Remove local in 0.0 and nullsec moves to high sec.

You mean the few who haven't moved their isk-making alts to hisec already? Yep.

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Wow what a bunch of risk averse carebears.

I think you'll find it's simple economics. My time isn't free, so if I have the option of making almost as much in hisec as in nullsec, but for vastly less effort and risk, that means I can spend my time doing other, more productive things while I do said iskmaking.

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

If you are worried about some stealth bomber taking out your PVP ship in null, then you need to tank properly.

A single stealthbomber isn't something I'd be afraid of in and of itself.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

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Viziam

Amarr Empire

KarmaFleet

Goonswarm Federation

Sigma Special Tactics Group