EVE General Discussion

Sorry, the tildes of facetiousness must be malfunctioning. User error here.

If eve reflected what humanity truly is, it would mean girls are 5% of the population, and women would be so rare that every time they speak to a male it would be an exciting experience O_o

I mean don't tell me you haven't had at least one of those times when a girl comes onto corp/alliance coms and everyone is like WHAT A GIRL!?>!??

Of course default EVE mindset, she must be getting paid to be here. Bringing up the more accurate analogy.

EVE is what happens to men when they don't have women around to keep them from ripping each other to shreds.

But it's ok to call all Minmatar dirty stinking slave scum? Just want to make sure we're on the same page. :)

We are. In RL wartime. We did. We still do.
And. Much. Worse.

In fact so much of what we do and have done defies the ability to comprehend what we have done.

Eve is not reflecting anything.. Its a game. Besides that so called humanity is all about making kids. And survival. Thats whole story about "humanity".

btw.. I disagree with you. Only some Humans have a dark nature; you are over-generalizing. Granted, we are all flawed in one fashion or another, and many of us have plenty of problems, while some of us even have a beastly nature despite all attempts to be otherwise. Can't be helped.

That doesn't mean we are evil however, and it certainly doesn't mean society is preventing us from giving in to this nature. Actually, the darkest of us are likely the products of our society, more so that being of a nature predisposed to that darkness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHA7p9t4yCQ

Some of us are just that, and the predisposition to this nature makes us vulnerable to that other nature. It is the environment we grow up in and experience as we mature that determines whether we will begin to fall into that nature of darkness. The two aren't so far apart really, and most of us have some measure of wildness to us.

All you have to do is look at history and the greatest evils committed therein, to see the truth of the matter, and where evil truly finds its home.

Of course it doesn't.

It reflects the nature of some who play this particular niche game.

Don't be fooled into thinking that the lack of empathy from many who play this game and post on here is a cross section of life on the planet. I know all players I come across in the game are real people. Going by what I read here though, there's many who like to post that don't... Well I'd like to think that at least. Otherwise they truly are 1 dimensional self righteous arseholes who get kicks from stomping on others for their own gain & enjoyment.

I think most just don't quite get it and are riding the wave of anonymity / fantasy role play. If really faced with someone they just caused pain, I believe many would back track a little to undo any discomfort for them. Empathy, compassion.

Yes.

I'm a care bear.

I love you all... Unless you are a true toss wad without any remorse for willing or unwilling pain you inflict on others. Then I only care for those who may feel for you. You can go f@#k yourself.

Never mistake empathy for others as a weakness.

It's a strength.

History itself also shares with us another fascinating trend - that those who use power to dominate often fall to those powerful enough to stop them. Not to say the good guys always win in reality, but humanity is a social species by nature, and most people recognise the need for a civilised one in which it is our social duty to uphold some semblance of civilised discourse towards others. We also recognise the duty of those with power is to serve society - we might not say so, many might not even believe so, but we recognise it every time we go to the polling booth to vote for our next federal leaders (whatever country you might be in).

I guess what I'm trying to say, in the tl;dr version, is that history has demonstrated a trend for civilisation to grow more and more civilised, even with its occasional returns to anarchy and chaos we are all still moving towards a more peaceful world where most people really do just get along. We are achieving this due to a painful process of trial-and-error - humanity has learned, for example, that "burning witches" is barbaric, new communication technologies have vastly improved our ability to realise that our foreign neighbours aren't that different from ourselves, and certainly aren't our enemies. For the most part.

In fact, less than a hundred years ago, many Americans believed that the Japanese people were all out to kill them - every one of them. This was not the case, however, and many Japanese citizens didn't want to be at war any more than America did. Since then, we've learned this, and we know that the citizens of the world don't want to be at war with anyone.

It is the rich and powerful who wage the wars, but it is the poor that fight them. People need to realise, though, that in that, it is the poor that then have power over the rich - as soon as the poor refuse to fight, then the rich lose their power. So power itself is not a currency for domination and control - how you wield it, however, makes all the difference.

It's probably also important to remember that while EVE is a fantastic emulation of a "reality" in which we can play a very real part, it is a reality that has very little influence on the world in which we consciously reside. I've chosen my words very carefully here because I don't care for a conversation and/or debate about "what is reality" - when time spent on a computer game starts to cut into your work/study/meals etc, then you have a problem. Additionally, a war fought on EVE is not costing lives, it is simply lots of lines of code doing their thing to emulate a war. You have nothing real to lose in a game, and neither does humanity - out here, beyond EVE, people have something to lose, and far more than just their dignity or pride. Out here, one homeless person is one unproductive member of society.

You can carry one of two mindsets in this situation - either he is unproductive and therefore needs to be culled so as not to weigh down humanity, or he is unproductive and therefore he can be MADE TO BE PRODUCTIVE and become a benefit to society. Why destroy what you can use yourself? One way of thinking is destructive and wasteful, the other is creative and useful. You decide which one you'd rather see implemented in reality, see if you can understand which one IS being implemented in various parts of the world, and then determine the nature of humanity.