Warfare & Tactics

Getting a bit tired of these posts clogging up the forums. Using your logic being AFK in a station i cant dock in is abusing game mechanics. BECAUSE, for all I know if I engage you in my cloaky ship - Your docked up guy might come out and there is no counter to that! Gee golly!

On another note Cloaky ships either pick on targets of opportunity or must work together to be effective for the most part. So maybe if you'd stop being a coward (And didn't have to pay for your entry into Null Sec...) and fielded a proper defense any stealth ships would be promptly beat by your superior fleet.

It is like people who whinge about ECM, Yes ECM is annoying - But you can fit implants, modules, etc that can reduce its effect drastically. (Get neuted? Cant fire guns? Cant tank? Same thing really)

So what am I trying to say?

Hard Counter to Stealth - Stop being a coward, have friends, set up a perimeter, have a response team available. Align out your miners or maybe start flying procurers. Because you know, those things have a battle ship sized tank.

Plenty of people have pointed out that the best way to deal with hostiles cloaked in system is to team up and run your pve together.

I'll go one step further and really spell it out for you. put one guy in a god damn falcon and have him follow you around. Problem solved.

Yopp

Mate.

You just had a thread locked for this literally on the same page.

Just drop it.

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OP is the reason people train up cloaky alts

If you are in null sec getting AFK camped, find a new system to rat or do your things. If you cant, you need to join people with more space. Most decent sized alliances have hundreds of systems, they would never notice you "borrowing" one.

Ive been afk camped but that is eve, I deal with it.

I prefer not to do this to my opponents because it makes them not want to log on, which hurts my chance for getting a good fight.

The problem with outposts is that AFK docked players are completely risk-free. if you are docked in station and there is no player input for an hour you should be logged out, so that you disappear from local, so that the at-keyboard black ops cyno ship lurking top belt in an Arazu can be assured that even if he sees you in Local you are not docked AFK in station and just appearing in Local, which makes his balls tragically blue because he thinks you might eventually undock a nag and go mining, or maybe he's afraid you are cloaked yourself, and he's just wasting his time. Meanwhile he is in his cloaky Arazu, guaging on d-scan what ships are at a POS unpiloted, which of the pilots at POS are AFK and which are just playing mum awaiting him to undock, and he has to make a decision when you do undock the mining nag - does he light the covops cyno and bring in 20 billion-ISK BLOPs and risk them being mutilated, or does he not?

Ban AFK docking. Its a total exploit and is reducing the ability of people to use their Black ops battleships with impunity to slaughter nullbears.

That and BLOPs sucks in practise and is really, really hard to make work. Not least because you have to apparently have an AFK cloaker terrorising nullbears for 6 weeks.

Surly ye jest sir, I was cloaked jumped into system aligned and cloaked, gate camp got me anyway cause they had cans drones and ships guarding gate, I got an express ride back to hi sec.

Every week there's some new post in the forums about the evils of AFK cloaking in nullsec systems.

For some reason, having a cloaked ship in system, the pilot who may or may not be away from their computer, brings nullsec industry, ratting and missioning to a complete standstill.

I'm not quite sure why that is the case, but if the plethora of forum complaints is any indication, it is a problem. Apparently, nullsec players, renters in particular, are babbies.

The solution to this insidious problem is to either 1) tape a post-it note over your local chat window, 2) close your local chat window, or 3) uninstall EVE Online. If you don't know who's in system, then it can't really be a bother. If you're playing World of Warcraft, then it's really not a problem.

How do wormhole people do anything, you might ask? At any point in time, their system could have twenty AFK cloakers watching (or not watching) their every move. Yet, somehow, through force of will perhaps, they manage to do ****. Run sleeper sites, mine, do industry. It's kind of mind-boggling, when you think about it. That people could actually go about their business, without the benefit of knowing who's watching them. Without knowing whether they could be jumped by some enemy fleet at any second.

Nullseccers, on the other hand, have the benefit of knowing when someone is potentially watching them, to know when to be a smidgin extra careful when doing their business. The have information that wormholers do not. Yet wormholers get **** down, whereas all activity in a nullsec system grinds to a halt.

The nullsec player who stops doing what they're doing just because some invisible ship is sitting in system, they should spend less time complaining, and more time feeling ashamed of themselves.

from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/10/the-problem-with-afk-cloaking.html