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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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Angel Violette
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#361 - 2012-10-30 01:25:59 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?
Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?
Do they think that by skulking about amongst unwashed masses their message shall be heard?
I say NO!
Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.
If they were so prgogressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.
With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all.
But they do not.
They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.
They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.


Confirming that as a part-time miner bumper, I am hiding in an NPC corp.
On a side note, you're welcome to settle with me anytime. Simply declare war.



I Second this !

I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise, They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.

Angel Violette
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#362 - 2012-10-30 01:26:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Angel Violette
AND HAIL THE NEW ORDER!

I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise, They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.

Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#363 - 2012-10-30 01:31:27 UTC
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.

Buck Badger
Aliastra
#364 - 2012-10-30 01:39:45 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!


Everyone would get bored and go AFK. Smile

"Trust no one.  As soon as God crapped out the third caveman a conspiracy was hatched against one of them."  Hunter Gathers

Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#365 - 2012-10-30 01:41:26 UTC
I vote we have it both ways for a while. See what happens. Firstly for 6 months not a single roid respawns. That'd be cool. Then after that ships don't have collisions. Seems a sensible and popular thing to do for all these ripple who don't want to see miners. Well just don't have any ore to mine!

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#366 - 2012-10-30 01:49:07 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
I vote we have it both ways for a while. See what happens. Firstly for 6 months not a single roid respawns. That'd be cool. Then after that ships don't have collisions. Seems a sensible and popular thing to do for all these ripple who don't want to see miners. Well just don't have any ore to mine!

I've already said

REMOVE ALL MINERS.

Then there would be no-one here to complain/defend/counter claim.
CCP is rid of their "agenda".
Gankers would have nothing to complain about.
Marketers would have nothing to compete with.
0.0 will be exactly that. zero.

Yes. Let's all be Elementals and throw thought bubbles at each other.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#367 - 2012-10-30 01:50:51 UTC
Buck Badger wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!

Everyone would get bored and go AFK. Smile

The miners already try to do that.

I don't really think you can be serious .. ^___^

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Count of MonteCylon
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#368 - 2012-10-30 04:56:22 UTC
I'm a fairly new player and I can't even tell what is going on in this thread. Miners used to get killed, now they complain about getting bumped? Is this trolling?

Instead of suicide ganking, now there's suicide jamming and people are mad about that?

An anti-bumping module? You guys are crazy Lol

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- Ephesians 6:12

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#369 - 2012-10-30 05:02:15 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!


How much ore is generated per reset on average? I doubvle it could all be mined in a day even with the miner helping you.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#370 - 2012-10-30 05:04:09 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!


How much ore is generated per reset on average? I doubvle it could all be mined in a day even with the miner helping you.


You'd only have to do systems within 5 jumps of a trade hub. The vast majority of miners won't go any further.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#371 - 2012-10-30 05:06:16 UTC
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
I'm a fairly new player and I can't even tell what is going on in this thread. Miners used to get killed, now they complain about getting bumped? Is this trolling?

Instead of suicide ganking, now there's suicide jamming and people are mad about that?

An anti-bumping module? You guys are crazy Lol

CCP is already working on it, apparently. So don't laugh.

Otherwise next they'll try and nerf laughter.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#372 - 2012-10-30 05:09:24 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
I have a great plan! Listen and be amazed!

Let's all log on after downtime and mine all the belts clean before the miners get there!

One of my best plans yet if I do say so myself!


How much ore is generated per reset on average? I doubvle it could all be mined in a day even with the miner helping you.


You'd only have to do systems within 5 jumps of a trade hub. The vast majority of miners won't go any further.


I had forgotten about this. It's much easyer then.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#373 - 2012-10-30 05:14:10 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
You'd only have to do systems within 5 jumps of a trade hub. The vast majority of miners won't go any further.

It's because anything lower than 0.7 is too risky for them.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#374 - 2012-10-30 05:17:05 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
You'd only have to do systems within 5 jumps of a trade hub. The vast majority of miners won't go any further.

It's because anything lower than 0.7 is too risky for them.


Pretty sure many miners just don't want to deal with the hauling and see red frog and such as too high a cost for whatever reason.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#375 - 2012-10-30 05:17:54 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
I'm a fairly new player and I can't even tell what is going on in this thread. Miners used to get killed, now they complain about getting bumped? Is this trolling?

Instead of suicide ganking, now there's suicide jamming and people are mad about that?

An anti-bumping module? You guys are crazy Lol

CCP is already working on it, apparently. So don't laugh.

Otherwise next they'll try and nerf laughter.



If they do bring in a anti-bumping module it should make them pick between tank or anti bump...

Have the anti-bump reduce shields and/or armour but in return stops ships being able to forcibly move you, kinda like anchoring your ship to the asteroid or something. Maybe with a start up that takes a hefty cycle to unhook you from the asteroid...

So either they tank and not afk reducing chances of bumps or go for the anti-bump and run the good chance of being suicide ganked...

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#376 - 2012-10-30 05:22:29 UTC
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
I'm a fairly new player and I can't even tell what is going on in this thread. Miners used to get killed, now they complain about getting bumped? Is this trolling?

Instead of suicide ganking, now there's suicide jamming and people are mad about that?

An anti-bumping module? You guys are crazy Lol


Miners gonna whine.

They whined when they got ganked because they fitted no tank, CCP buffed mining ships and gave them tougher ships
Now they're whining that people have the gall to intrude upon their harvesting resources with bumping, in a game that revolves around control of resources and space.
When they whine enough to make hisec the equivalent of a nursery school they'll whine that the game is boring and that there is nobody to buy their product.

I myself mine and I'm so disgusted by the attitudes that some of my competitors display that I've joined in with the bumping.

Tears are far more fun than rocks and ice.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#377 - 2012-10-30 05:27:52 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
I'm a fairly new player and I can't even tell what is going on in this thread. Miners used to get killed, now they complain about getting bumped? Is this trolling?

Instead of suicide ganking, now there's suicide jamming and people are mad about that?

An anti-bumping module? You guys are crazy Lol

CCP is already working on it, apparently. So don't laugh.

Otherwise next they'll try and nerf laughter.



If they do bring in a anti-bumping module it should make them pick between tank or anti bump...

Have the anti-bump reduce shields and/or armour but in return stops ships being able to forcibly move you, kinda like anchoring your ship to the asteroid or something. Maybe with a start up that takes a hefty cycle to unhook you from the asteroid...

So either they tank and not afk reducing chances of bumps or go for the anti-bump and run the good chance of being suicide ganked...

I laughed.

Miner should tank. He get's bumped.
He bump fits and gets ganked.

wtf would anyone even bother?

Just REMOVE MINERS. I want to see what the NEXT whiney whine will be.

This topic is WAY past it's use-by-date.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#378 - 2012-10-30 05:36:07 UTC
What do you mean they don't gain anything? They are most likely buying ore's and such while cheap and bumping to make miners leave for a while and raise the price then sell off for a profit? The whole toll thing is just another way for them to make money as well...

Even a slight decrease in gathering will increase the prices a little bit... With enough resources bought before hand they would stand to gain a lot of isk.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#379 - 2012-10-30 05:49:40 UTC
What are you doing about AFK ratters?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#380 - 2012-10-30 05:55:42 UTC
AFK ratting is just about to get a kick in the teeth from CCP, the new NPC AI will make it much more difficult to AFK rat in something like the Contested Skeleton Comet where rats just spawn 23/7. AFK ratting is normally done by droneboats like the Dominix, the new AI will switch targets now and if you're not at your keyboard then drones will die in short order.

We don't need to do anything about it, CCP have accepted that it's a problem and are taking steps to fix it.

Also PvE ships die really really quickly when you engage them in a PvP ship, they are of little threat to somebody who is out hunting them.

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