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Miners Unite to Fight the New Order!

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#281 - 2012-10-29 17:27:59 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Asuri Kinnes wrote:




Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.


No update to barges for over 6 years

Goons do ice iterdictions

Forums explode with miner rants for months

CCP buff barges.


Yea, I cant see any link here...
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#282 - 2012-10-29 17:29:57 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves.

It most certainly is serious, and we do our utmost to help these poor individuals. Thank you for your support.

Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec

Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...

Roll

Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.

Yeah.
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#283 - 2012-10-29 17:31:45 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.

My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???

Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall


It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship . . .

Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.


It would be fantastic if miners and industrialists were required to be in null sec full time and build up the market there. Sadly it's not the case. Empire building in null doesn't require industrialists under the their banner just those required to push out the cap ships of course.

Perhaps the new tutorials that introduce losing ships as a reality will mean you get people who enjoy both on the same character.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#284 - 2012-10-29 17:32:45 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves.

It most certainly is serious, and we do our utmost to help these poor individuals. Thank you for your support.

Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec

Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...

Roll

Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.

Yeah.


The Pinky Pie or the Fluttershy? Lol

Fire the friendship cannon.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#285 - 2012-10-29 17:33:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
No update to barges for over 6 years

Goons do ice iterdictions

Forums explode with miner rants for months

CCP buff barges.

Yea, I cant see any link here...

Summer of Rage, CCP starts working on FiS, **** changes and all the while the game still goes on.


So, again, any proof or not?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#286 - 2012-10-29 17:34:11 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.

Yeah.

I really want to shoot you, but then I'd be in trouble for shooting blues.

That and I don't want to go all the way to Delve. You get a pass ... for now.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#287 - 2012-10-29 17:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Perhaps you want to spread the word internally then, I see a lot of these posts saying "don't be afk duh...." as if it will help

Well, we do target obvious AFKers first, since they clearly have the highest level of bot aspiration. No miner is safe, however.


Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Btw - they affect little more or even less than market players who are never undocking Smile

Finally, as a full time mission bear I find the idea that ratting is in any way better hilarious. Mine, rat, its all the same: ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1.


Though don't mistake this post for a "waaaaa stop it" as I said, it is hilarious - as you were Pirate

Market trading actually has more effect on the economy than mining, and requires more interaction. Ratting is similar(ish) to mining, I suppose, but rats die much quicker than 'roids, so you can't just AFK. Ratting also has at least some level of innate risk, which mining does not.

Alavaria Fera wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.

Yeah.

I really want to shoot you, but then I'd be in trouble for shooting blues.

That and I don't want to go all the way to Delve. You get a pass ... for now.

My most sincere thanks for your clemency.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#288 - 2012-10-29 18:01:56 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard.



The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.


That's what people like you WANT to think, rather than understanding that the vast majority of human beings who play EVE (and even a couple fo the smarter bots, man those things are getting sophisticated) don't CARE how you play, so long as you understand what EVE is.

EVE is a game that allows and encourages the kind of thing James 315 is doing. Rather than figure out ways to counter those ways or stop HIM, you choose to come on these forums and ask for CCP to fix it and make it all better for you.

THAT is what we don't like about you, because you are whiny, entitled, Welfare-esque people who put no effort into your own well being , not the fact that you like to imaginary laser imaginary rocks to death. I like to imaginary autocannon imaginary guristas to death, I could hardly dislike miners for their "playstyle".

But keep believing your "playlist" is the reason, if that makes you happy.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#289 - 2012-10-29 18:03:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...

Roll


I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them.

Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game.


They did evolve in one way, their tear ducts are now attached to their fingers Evil


ROFL
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#290 - 2012-10-29 18:05:24 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
EVE is a game that allows and encourages the kind of thing James 315 is doing. Rather than figure out ways to counter those ways or stop HIM, you choose to come on these forums and ask for CCP to fix it and make it all better for you.

THAT is what we don't like about you, because you are whiny, entitled, Welfare-esque people who put no effort into your own well being , not the fact that you like to imaginary laser imaginary rocks to death. I like to imaginary autocannon imaginary guristas to death, I could hardly dislike miners for their "playstyle".

But keep believing your "playlist" is the reason, if that makes you happy.

Heh. So CCP will be rolling out a new "pvp improving" nerf to bumping, right?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#291 - 2012-10-29 18:16:10 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
No update to barges for over 6 years

Goons do ice iterdictions

Forums explode with miner rants for months

CCP buff barges.

Yea, I cant see any link here...

Summer of Rage, CCP starts working on FiS, **** changes and all the while the game still goes on.


So, again, any proof or not?

We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala".
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#292 - 2012-10-29 18:17:27 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala".

I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#293 - 2012-10-29 18:19:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala".

And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not?

Proximity =/= Causation.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
TheTrue Acolyte
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#294 - 2012-10-29 18:21:57 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling.


"Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4

The way and the life of HiSec. Heed the Code and achieve everlasting mining cycles:

http://www.minerbumping.com
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#295 - 2012-10-29 18:24:46 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala".

And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not?

Proximity =/= Causation.


You already got the answer. Its up to you if you want to dismiss it because you don't like the truth.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#296 - 2012-10-29 18:24:52 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Counter-bump?

Been tried. Does not get the desired results.

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#297 - 2012-10-29 18:29:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala".

And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not?

Proximity =/= Causation.


You already got the answer. Its up to you if you want to dismiss it because you don't like the truth.

So yeah, you don't *know*, nor have any proof, that the changes weren't in the pipeline for months before any of those actions? thanks for the clarification.

TheTrue Acolyte wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling.


"Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4

Wouldn't be the first person to call themselves "saviour"...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#298 - 2012-10-29 18:32:01 UTC
TheTrue Acolyte wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling.

"Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4

We are talking about miners ... CCP is positively showering them in love and buffs it seems.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#299 - 2012-10-29 18:34:21 UTC
Still waiting for Issler to pop up in one of these threads and lead the miners to freedom, or something. I guess they aren't *that* important until election time rolls back around.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#300 - 2012-10-29 18:34:50 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Still waiting for Issler to pop up in one of these threads and lead the miners to freedom, or something. I guess they aren't *that* important until election time rolls back around.

She's too busy "debating in the open spaces of EVE".

CCP has no sense of humour.