EVE General Discussion

Yes becuase this has pvp written all over it....well goofwaffle pvp any how.

you dont mine do you? Or have never been bumped while mining. If so you would not have made this statement.

He may not mine, he may never have been bumped. I, on the other hand, do mine and have been bumped, I still mine (roids not ice) and spend some of my time helping to remove fellow miners from the ice belts via bumping, because it appeals to my twisted sense of humour.

Next irrelevant argument please?

I want to apologize in adavance. This is a little rude and I admit it.

Anyone that thinks that lower mineral prices in high sec would be good for the games economy is an idiot.

High sec needs mineral prices to RISE, and by a good margin.

Low and null needs mineral prices to stay low.


Higher mineral prices in high sec would increase the cost of goods, reducing the gap between the prices of bulk manufactured goods in high sec and those sold in low and null, thus improving the living conditions in null for those of us that play EVE for the industrial and market side of things.


Low prices and continual inflation is BAD for the economy.

Wihtout ganking and bumping of miners prices in high sec would just drop, and it would pretty much kill any and all industry in null.

You guys are your own worst enemy, seriously. You guys keep asking for more protectin when less would actually make you mroe ******* money! WTF, if you mine in high sec, you SHOULD WANT THE GUY MINING NEXT TO YOU TO GET BLOWN UP. Everyt time another miner is blown up, bumped, or just has his output reduced, YOU have the potential to sell for more.



YOU do not understand supply and demand, along with what seems to be a bunch of other people. EQUILIBRIUM is NEVER achieved in EVE, because output is NEVER ADJUSTED based on supply. There is constantly more minerals going into the system than coming out of it.

When the price of rare earth elements starts to rise, China doesn't produce more, they reduce trading to reduce supply and inflate the cost of rare earth elements. If the bottom end falls out, you do not produce more, you stop trading it.

You guys in high sec keep doing everything you WOULDN'T do baed on supply and demand. You're overproducing a good that is ALWAYS in demand, and then complain that you want to put even more into the system and drive down costs, that's as stupid as stupid gets.

For the mentally impaired.
If you can make 2 of something everyone wants, in a proper supply and demand system, you would only make 1. Making 2 would make you LESS money than if you only made one and charged more for it.

You guys are literally hurting yourselves everytime you complain about not being able to mine.
You would make more if everyone mined less. You guys should be treating mineral slike oil and you don't.

What a coincidence that people in null sec don't just get this, they practice it. Go figure.

Yes....yes you should. Do you really believe that this minor bumping and ganking is effecting prices?

No, and that's what I'm telling you.

It's not effecting, and you should want it to effect it. It's stupid to not want it to effect it.

YOU WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY IF OUTPUT WAS ABLE TO BE IMPACTED MORE! Wanting less impact is bad; it effects the ecoomy and your own personal wealth.

You're already making a mess of the economy, it's why null suffers on the industrial side. You guys aren't charging enough for minerals, which is keeping high sec produced goods lower than they should be, and that creates a gap that is to large to compete with building in null.

High sec industry is very much like a communist state. People think I'm being an ass when I make my little communist rants, but I"m being serious. You've centralized industry in high sec by flooding the market with more minerals than needs to be there, keeping costs well bellow what people can afford, and making it so that null is better off importing than building.

You guys are ******* up the economy through all of New Eden, and you keep asking for CCP to do things that would just make it worse.



I want you guys in high sec to make more isk, if you make more isk with higher prices then I'll make more isk building and selling in null. Over competition and producation is a problem. Competition can't be reduced, but mineral outputs can.



If you're a miner in high sec, it would benefit you to put bounties on as many other miners as you possibly can come Dec. 4th. The more miners you can impact, the more output is reduced, and the more you can charge for mineals. WE need a much larger group working in high sec to disrupt outputs, and miners can be a part of it soon instead of being the problem.

But then you guys want more output and lower prices already, so I doubt you'll be smart enough to do the right thing come Dec. 4th. Instead you guys will ***** about having bounties on your head untill CCP nerfs that.



Forced demand, you know like oil, and you guys are like here buy a barrell for a few cents, I'll jus go get more for you. Effing moronic.

Love the emergent gameplay did you guys really hire mercs?

I'm waiting for mercs to take their money and then show up in the belts to bump them for being whiney little kids

Where do you live?


I, too, am waiting to see this happen.

Just an idea, maybe the miners can come together and drive the ore prices up until either the community turns on them, the bumpers stop or Alliances wipe them out (bumpers).

Seems like a nice CCP free way to "Sandbox-A-Solution" in my book. Would be completely fair and legit.