EVE General Discussion

If you haven't been personally harassed by the "New Order" you have most likely heard of them. They are bullies. I have tried speaking with them and filing petitions, it would seem that neither these "agents" or the GM's can be reasoned with. I have personally spoken with James 315 and can testify that he's not even as "compassionate" and "reasonable" as he makes himself seem in his stupid blog. He is a hateful man who despises miners on his own bigoted principle. He just can't stand the fact that we don't want to play with him, or his way, I think it stems from some kind of real life loneliness. In addition to that, it would seem that many changes are coming with the new expansion that may make it even harder to be left alone to mine in peace.

We cannot sit idly by while they ruin our game! Every petition filed is answered with a blow-off statement or this from his blog post

"Hello,

Bumping miners is not against the rules. If you keep your mining ship moving while you mine (by orbiting your target for example) then the bumper will probably miss you."

This is complete B&%% S&*#!

I have been in contact with many industrialists and we are pooling our resources to higher mercs to deal with them. I would like to take this opportunity to ask for any donations our wealthy fellow industrialists are willing to offer. Our only hope is to fight fire with fire. This character doesn't have many combat skills, but I'm looking into acquiring a fighter, I advise you to do the same.

DEATH TO THE NEW ORDER!

"Harry Potter" Is coming so you dont need to unite. Workers are just about to finish theme park for you. Just few weeks and will be ready.

I acutaly made an idea for a anti bumper module in a different thread on this topic.

High slot module that puts up a bubble around your ship (porportional to the size of your ship) that no other ship can enter, and is flung back when comeing into contact with it.

It would use a decent amount of cap, and take a preaty large amount of CPU.

This would please all sides, the miners would have something to use against the bumpers, the bumpers could bump the idiots that wouldn't use this (same ones that don't fit tanks in low/null), and the price for ore would go up because of the reduced speed of mining.

Oh yea, and put this on a titan. See how that affects pvp.

No using it near stations either, you dam trolls.

Counter-bump?

If it goes on a low slot, that means the miner would have to give up a MLU II, so it will never be used and they will still complain. If it goes on the midslot, they probably wouldn't fit it anyway, and if it did it means their ship would be much easier to gank, so they will complain.

The New Order is a PvE organization (since the miners aren't at their keyboards, it can't be described as PvP), and highsec has, after many years of carebear whine and unpatched dec shield bugs, become the place for uninterrupted PvE

Mm, sounds like maybe next it'll have to be baked into the hull if people are not using it or using it and being ganked.

Also, make it very expensive, so that if you get ganked and it drops ^___^ Ops, gave it away.

Hahahahahahahaha this is hilarious ! XD

I've only been playing eve for a few days so please feel free to ignore newb comments but...

Miners: 10 million iskies is nothing, if you want this guy to leave you alone then cough up. I can earn 10 mill in a couple of days using a mission supplied sigil and a miner 1 in the downtime when I'm not running missions and have RL stuff to do. Mining ice with a dedicated miner has got to deliver better returns than that. The only reason you don't want to pay is that you don't feel he deserves a slice of your AFK cpu cycles. I can relate to that, he comes across as a real jerk and the whole king of hi-sec thing makes me want to blow chunks but if you can tear yourself away from online pron for a few secs then it's simple.

Don't pay, when you get bumped re-target the asteroid and mine again. You'll get bumped again but he's spending as much time at the keyboard as you are for no reward. Eventually one of you will get bored., who is anyone's guess but while he's bumping you he's not making money elsewhere and whilst it's not costing you anything but time his reputation is sinking down the plughole.

I've nothing against the tactic, this is a sandbox, feel free to cr*p where you want but the whole 'king of hi-sec' along with the blog etc. Jeez what a sad little individual.

As soon as I have enough training time in I'm off to 0.0 for some real action, James I suggest you do the same, see how long your king title lasts down there.

It should be noted that miners don't actually want to shoot at anyone and never have done. They just want it to be totally impossible for anyone to do anything to them that has any affect on their ability to mine AFK in an untanked ship without having to account for the fact that there are other people playing the game.

Miners haven't ever made meaningful attempts to defend themselves, they want the game mechanics to render them invulnerable to anything other players can conceive to do to them, and CCP is always happy to oblige.

So yup, let's jump straight to it and have anyone who bumps a barge get concorded already.

CCP has made it pretty apparent that coding any kind of distinction into any part crimewatch even if the lack of it is hugely detrimental to gameplay is too difficult for them to bother with so I'm pretty sure it'll apply everywhere.

I mean it's not like implementing a change made to protect carebears from themselves hasn't totally screwed over everyone else before. If you've tried to use a logistics ship in PVP in highsec you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.