EVE General Discussion

So what? What makes you think you should have that intel? You already have a load handed to you on a silver platter (local), and you're acting like you're entitled to even more?

Worse than even the hisec carebears imo. At least they will admit they're risk averse baddies.



Being docked doesn't have a counter. Neither does being logged off. Going AFK cloaked is just another way in which players can effectively remove themselves from the in game universe for a period of time, there's nothing wrong with that. You shouldn't be able to "counter" players not playing the game, demanding CCP give you a means to kill those players who have taken a brief break from the game for real life alternatives.

Another reason AFK cloaking does not need a counter is because there is nothing to counter. They are literally incapable of anything, there's nothing to counter. Implementing a "counter" to something when the something is literally nothing is what would truly be unbalanced and broken.

Now onto the stupid, stupid idea of probes, ships, depth charges, whatever that people always bring up. I'm going to be a little bit unkind here because I'm sick of seeing these suggestions: You are stupid and don't understand many of the mechanics of EVE online, or many of the roles that require cloaking. Such ignorance is the only reason these suggestions could exist, as it is very easy to demonstrate how such mechanics are just utterly stupid and destructive.

Reconnaissance can often require players - ACTIVE - players to sit in a fixed location for extended periods of time, either to observe the enemy and relay information, or to get in strategic positions and provide warp/jump in points. This stupid idea makes that impossible.

Wormholes. Oh look, this stupid idea destroys wormholes entirely. A specific, deliberate design in wormhole space is not being able to tell if there are cloaked ships in system, probes or depth charges or a ship type that can find them just undermines this entirely.

So to summarise: You've proposed changes that destroy several important areas of the game, all because you're such a terrible player that you have to demand CCP gives you a means to kill players who aren't even in game, rather than do real pvp, or just ignoring the none-entity that is an "AFK cloaker"

People whine about AFK cloakers because they can't just deal with it and move to another system.

How many chaps have you caught with that?

What did they say before you podded them?

AFK on the forums. Interesting concept.

Elaborate.

And so, you've just illustrated quite nicely the "counter" to AFK cloaks, bru.

Good on ya!

/Me chuckles...But am I really A/F/K? Or not. Maybe I just got up to use the loo?

I just love the EVE flavour of psychological warfare, oh yes I do!

I've been yelling about this afk business a long time now and it's always the same.

PVP people cry that you will take their only advantage away or some other bs and the industrialists cry that they can't make isks or that they can't find the idiotic AFK idiots.

solution: remove local

Everyone wins. Even the stupid devs that don't do nothing about this.

I don't see why local is so "vital" for nullsec anyway. Wouldn't intel channels and players active in systems basically give you the same intel anyway (just not handed on a silver platter)?

Whining about whiners doesn`t make you better.

Here we go again. Someone coming on the forums rage-posting because they got too comfortable.
Plenty of cloaked ship get de-cloaked and killed every day. It takes dedication, good tactics and teamwork... it is FAR from impossible. Besides, you still need to prove two things:

1) Prove they are AFK as opposed to extremely patient?
2) How do people who are AFK attack other ships?

The argument is self-defeating


You talk about real PVP? Having a magical chat box that warns your panzy @ss that people are in your precious system is about as PVP averse as it gets.

CCP - Please remove local real time updates across the board It serves no purpose.

Not to worry friend, always assume that AFK cloakies are not at the keyboard and go about your business as usual.