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Lost in Space....Transporting Strategies.
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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-10-30 10:39:25 UTC
Jesuis Cache-Cache wrote:
Thanks to Sin, JP and welcome San Fran to the list of comments. As always, with the utmost appreciation.

So, aside from the animation...When you are ready to warp at the end of the C-MWD trick, you drop cloak the same time as the MWD cycle ends hit warp (or jump).

At that moment, even though your ship is still "cloaked by animation" and yet your ship as not entered warp by animation, the soft voice prompts you with "Warpdrive Active" and your speed indicator on the bottom of your HUD says "Warping". Then there is a second or two and your ship actually enters warp.

Now, not worrying with the actual ship animation and just looking at the voice prompt and the HUD.

Where is the point at which they cannot lock you?

If I understand this correctly, that should give gankers two split second opportunities to lock.

1- When you align to break gate cloak and hit cloak- MWD. This should show as just a blip on his overview. Even with an instantaneous locking time. They don't even have time to click your ship.

2- When you decloak and hit warp or jump. This is pending on what they see on their overview.

I have been sitting at gates (well...one for a few minutes..lol) watching how they work observing the overview as others come through the gate and warp off. It seems that once you are prompted, that you are warping, you are grayed out on the overview. Then when your ship actually warps off, you are then removed from the overview.

So, in #2 they should only see you pop up on the overview for a split second again, but then you are grayed out before they can react to get a lock.
You do realize that a human being still has roughly a second of reaction time? not even including the time it takes to act.
The servers also process commands every second, not instantly, your client performs extrapolations between each server refresh so the precise nano-second when you click "cloak" you don't show on everyone's overview already.

And you also assume the gankers are like hamsters on energy drinks.

When you mix all this, I would say 2 seconds aren't that big of a deal.

Jesuis Cache-Cache wrote:
A part from waiting for her skills to get up, I bought her a Condor and set it up for speed. That little ship was cheap to fit out and it SCREAMS through space. She clocks in at 3,782 m/s. She approached a gate to orbit at 5km and about the second loop, these scout scanners (I assume that's who they were. Who else sets at gates like that?) will start cloaking up. It's funny.

It was set up to mainly get Undock spots, but it has proven to be a recon training vessel as well. I have since gained knowledge in the use and application of the tactical viewer. Great times ahead....tanked or cloaked...P

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Jesuis Cache-Cache
#62 - 2012-10-30 11:21:56 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
You do realize that a human being still has roughly a second of reaction time? not even including the time it takes to act.
The servers also process commands every second, not instantly, your client performs extrapolations between each server refresh so the precise nano-second when you click "cloak" you don't show on everyone's overview already.

And you also assume the gankers are like hamsters on energy drinks.

When you mix all this, I would say 2 seconds aren't that big of a deal.

This is reassuring.

I was able to get the Noctis to perform rather well with just Nanos in the lows. That's without any rigs. It aligns way ahead for the MWD cycle. Not sure why EFT has it so high.

What matters is I am out of cloak and warping pretty damn fast. With three Low Fric Nos the ole ORE should be ok...I hope. At least she won't be waiting for them to strike.

Aside from this. Mt Alt has found a new pastime of harassing the Gankers. It seems they get flustered when a Condor drops out of cloak and scans their ship to see what fits they are set up with. Half will target to try a scare tactic and the rest just warp off.

I love it....

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Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#63 - 2012-10-30 14:50:49 UTC
Jesuis Cache-Cache wrote:
Hey SK!

As a matter of fact, I watched that video again last night...for the fifth time...

However, that fit seems to be restricted to that ship, due to the number of low slots. Still, I must ask...Do you move through low and nul safely without being ganked?

Nice. And yeah, I don't ever have issues.

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