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Redeem PLEX for Skillpoints.

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Jackie Butters
Fawkes' Loyal Professionals
#41 - 2012-10-27 20:20:54 UTC
What do people pay for in eve, skill time, yes you're paying for the time on the account, but besides playing you're learning skills, if i find a character that's 3 days old, HE SHOULDN'T BE IN A MARAUDER! Pay to win will destroy eve.

Full Stop, Where's my down-vote button I'm gonna start a thread for that.
Alexila Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#42 - 2012-10-28 01:58:45 UTC
Go die in a hole somewhere.

My two cents.
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#43 - 2012-10-28 15:19:33 UTC
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:
Hello fellow capsuleers. Have you ever been spinning in station looking at a cool new ship that you want to fly, but realize it would take weeks, or months even to fly it properly? No one wants to sit through Capital Ships V to fly their titan. I propose that CCP add a new addition in the the redemption of PLEX, by allowing pilots to recieve unallocated SP.

I know you're thinking, "This is a horrible idea!" it's a "Pay to Win" idea, and the deepest pockets would have the most SP. As upfront as that suggestion would be, let's take a look at the Character bazaar. Players are spending money on PLEX, to redeem into ISK, to pay for a character who fits their cup of tea at the moment. Essentially a pay to win situation.

Now I've looked into the average SP/Hour for what a PLEX might convert into. Given that a PLEX grants a month of gametime, and average pilot trains at about 2300 SP/Hour (1.6mil SP/Month) it would be acceptable to redeem PLEX into 1.5mil unallocated SP. The only 'real' negative outcome I see from this is the price per PLEX would jump. This is only a brainstormed analysis however and their could be many more issues.

So, I've brought the idea to you all and want to hear your constructive unput. Pros/Cons. Thanks for listening.



that would be a big NO. plex prices are already spiraling out of control.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#44 - 2012-10-28 15:47:04 UTC
No

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Me ofcourse
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2012-10-29 01:20:05 UTC
The answer to OP's request is a STRAIGHT NO, EVE's main point is that it takes years to play literally. thats the whole point of the SP system. if you made it to where you can just straight out buy SP then that system is useless. if someone is super eve rich (which i know a bunch of people who are) they could just buy all plexes out, and get every single skill in the game to level 5 on a brand new toon


and this is to everyone else, stop posting on this thread and let it die out (the dumb idea has been on the front 2 pages for almost a week now)
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#46 - 2012-10-29 02:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Me ofcourse wrote:
and this is to everyone else, stop posting on this thread and let it die out (the dumb idea has been on the front 2 pages for almost a week now)

Nah... the entire thread is pretty much filled with people saying "no" in some form or another. It'd be a better idea to sticky it so it acts like a head on a pike... a warning to anyone else who may think it is a good idea.Twisted

How did you Veterans start?
Me ofcourse
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#47 - 2012-10-29 02:48:04 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Me ofcourse wrote:
and this is to everyone else, stop posting on this thread and let it die out (the dumb idea has been on the front 2 pages for almost a week now)

Nah... there entire thread is pretty much filled with people saying "no" in some form or another. It'd be a better idea to sticky it so it acts like a head on a pike... a warning to anyone else who may think it is a good idea.Twisted


hmm on second thought, yeah, someone contact a dev or something to sticky this
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-10-29 06:08:49 UTC
Yeah the whole first page of F&I should be stickies anyway

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-10-29 11:09:20 UTC
Money / PLEX for gametime, gametime for skillpoints. Looks like OP already has what he demands.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#50 - 2012-10-29 11:19:28 UTC
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:
Hello fellow capsuleers. Have you ever been spinning in station looking at a cool new ship that you want to fly, but realize it would take weeks, or months even to fly it properly?
Yes. And the wait made the pay-off all the sweeter. In the mean-time, it was no problem flying what was already in the hangar.

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Now I've looked into the average SP/Hour for what a PLEX might convert into.
I'd say about 5.

The main problem, of course, is that it wouldn't solve anything.
General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services
#51 - 2012-10-29 12:44:53 UTC  |  Edited by: General Jung
Hello,

NO MICROTRANSACTIONS

there are a few things, which should not be changed in EVE and this is one of that.

So this is a pretty clear statement against any kind of microtransactions. I like games with a fix cost, both a single fee and a monthly fee, but no microtransactions in any kind. Those microtransactions ideas are really the worst ideas here in the forum, beside the remove of stargates.

I think there is nothing to add, which isn´t already metioned.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#52 - 2012-10-29 13:08:41 UTC
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:
I know you're thinking, "This is a horrible idea!" it's a "Pay to Win" idea, and the deepest pockets would have the most SP. As upfront as that suggestion would be, let's take a look at the Character bazaar. Players are spending money on PLEX, to redeem into ISK, to pay for a character who fits their cup of tea at the moment. Essentially a pay to win situation

so look, its already implemented. Use that.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-10-30 03:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Suo Pavlichenko wrote:
let's take a look at the Character bazaar. Players are spending money on PLEX, to redeem into ISK, to pay for a character who fits their cup of tea at the moment. Essentially a pay to win situation. .



not necessarily. I know a few peeps balling in rl, wanted to skip the training part of eve and fast tracked to a nice char like 1-2 weeks into eve. they went and died alot after.

Why? as much a noob hates his frigate/dessie/t1 cruiser it teaches lots of pve and/or pvp basics that ae applicable to the higher level (and priced) ships. ANd for an added bonus, when you mess up and die, its cheap. the rl peeps who fast tracked skipped the foreplay of rifters to jump in and die in a fire learning pvp in vaga's and such. expensive way to learn to play eve an understatement.

Pay to win kind of means well you know, you win. Said it before, say it again, great uber ships flown by tard noobs will go boom real easy. SP's can't fix stupid/bad game play. Playing the game does that.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#54 - 2012-10-30 03:26:35 UTC
It's almost amazes me how many times this crap comes up...almost. Reminds me of my little sister when she was like five and couldn't grasp the concept of "No, we are not getting another puppy, we already have one." Roll

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-10-30 03:49:46 UTC
Perhaps instead of this, CCP should just create Eve Offline.

60 dollars at walmart.

Reduced size. Maybe 100 systems tops. High, low, null, and WH.

Seeded goods from npcs, character to sell items to npcs.

Players can create local servers to play with friends.

Training times drastically reduced.

Everything that you can do online, you'll be able to do offline, including blowing up npc miners and such with suicide ganks.


Basically, allow the player to shape the world of an npc enviroment.



I think it would sell well, and players would still continue to play Eve Online because it's an entirely different feel.


This would allow those players that never are going to fly supers or titans to have somewhere to go in order to get that experience.

I'm just saying...It's more money for CCP..
Kejii Maeda
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-10-30 22:25:30 UTC
Sorry if another idea of this type was presented.
In the event of being flamed I will leave this here:

SP for Plex sucks. Plex is already expensive enough and I would actually be in favor of going back to the basics of plex, using it only for gametime, not for resculpts, not for tourneys, not for aurum. This way it could be easier for people to pay for their accounts with plex...but I digress (sp?)....

I think cash for SP would be nice with some big caps in place. For instance:

-5mil sp lifetime account cap. For one account you couldn't ever buy more than 5mil sp. Sure you could switch characters across accounts but would it be worth it at $20 (maybe its just a plex now) to transfer and pay for 30days of gametime to get the receiving account off trial.

-Monthly limit of 1mil sp cap. This way you could only hit the 5mil account cap over a 5 month period

As far as cost is concerned I was thinking $10 per 1mil of SP.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#57 - 2012-10-30 22:50:37 UTC
Kejii Maeda wrote:
Sorry if another idea of this type was presented.
In the event of being flamed I will leave this here:

SP for Plex sucks. Plex is already expensive enough and I would actually be in favor of going back to the basics of plex, using it only for gametime, not for resculpts, not for tourneys, not for aurum. This way it could be easier for people to pay for their accounts with plex...but I digress (sp?)....

I think cash for SP would be nice with some big caps in place. For instance:

-5mil sp lifetime account cap. For one account you couldn't ever buy more than 5mil sp. Sure you could switch characters across accounts but would it be worth it at $20 (maybe its just a plex now) to transfer and pay for 30days of gametime to get the receiving account off trial.

-Monthly limit of 1mil sp cap. This way you could only hit the 5mil account cap over a 5 month period

As far as cost is concerned I was thinking $10 per 1mil of SP.

I think you missed the part where pretty much everyone in this thread said "no" to anything having to do with "buying SP."

How did you Veterans start?
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