EVE General Discussion

So you didn't like the answer you got in the other thread, so you started your very own? I see.

What I do, if I'd been dumb enough to bother with nullsec ratting, is dock up and wait for the horde of drool to roll past. What did you expect me to do, stay there and honourably joust with them on the honourable field of honourable space battle on my honourable PVE space steed?

Oh wait, this is a preamble to "hurr nullsec is so safe because of local", isn't it?

http://youtu.be/ct33UUhS_xg there is a reason half of 0.0 is blue to each other.

I suppose that the question is : in player's sovereignty null sec ?
Because else, rating in npc null sec is not that different than in low sec. It means that i have nowhere to dock, and i must count on my net of safe spots, my dscan and my reflexs. In other words i see very often red people passing by the solar systems i'm rating in, and i won't go hide each time i see one . If it's a too dangerous fish for me, I just hope that i'll be able to warp fast enough if he visits me and then play cat and mouse in the system. Honestly i rarely get interrupted, and when it happens i mostly have time to warp away, but once again i rat in npc nullsec.
If i visit some "owned" space, it's the locals who are red for me, so of course in this case i won't rat a busy system...

For anyone joining us let me summarise the thread for you:

OP: Guise, wht do u do when som1 in a pvp ship enters ur system and ur in a pve ship?????? (lol i bet they hide like cowards, remove local ftw)
Ignorant High Seccers: lol null is so much safer than high sec
Null seccers: You do realise that we need to pay attention to local, and not noticing the screen for the wrong 30 seconds leads to a multi-billion isk loss?
Ignorant High Seccers: We have to face bumping!
lolrp Null Seccers: Readily my gentle space heroes, you are no such heroes, you are cowards and I declare thee as such. I have no understanding of what it is like to fight in real wars, yet I shall still poke my uninformed opinion into thy business.
Null Seccers: What? Why am I supposed to be taking advice off someone who's alliance survives because their space isn't worth taking?
lolrp Null Seccers: You have offended my honour dead space knight, I shall sperge on these forums to punish you.
*Everyone loses will to live*

you got it right: this game is a sandbox. And every player has right to choose his own play style (don't forget about other players tho). And not one can say: "my play style is right and yours not".

btw: i'm not grinding ISK for like 7 months. I have more than i need. So i just wasting my time chatting in local, pvping and trading.


i'm really sorry for you. If you want to be taken seriously don't allow yourself to make such a fail with stupid sentences like these.

and after all: i'm highsec dweller atm. Not sure if i will return to 0.0 in visible future because 0.0 got really boring for me. And even now i don't like stupid ideas like "remove local".

People AFK in 0.0 all the time, have you ever been to 0.0 ? How much traffic do you think is there? Honestly.

I've seen pods just sitting at gates, when I come back the other way they're still there (I was in a shuttle)

On the off chance you get an AFK cloaker you dock and hide then change systems.

The functionality of local is greatly reduced in high sec, as any neut could be red and you won't know until it's too late.

Go ahead and park a JF at a POCO in 0.0 and go AFK if want. People mine in Titans there, it isn't as if you'd be special.

go back to station, swap to bomber, go have a bit of a look around so the fast forming fleet has something to shoot at.

Pretty much this. If you don't defend your territory, it doesn't stay yours for very long.

Actually the argument goes that defending your territory against ~wulfpax~ roamers is counter intuitive.

Say you own a region, we'll call it Region X, you live next door to me, I shall call that Region Y.

I roam from Region Y into Region X looking for kills. You form a home defence fleet and we have ~gudfites~.

All that does is encourage me to take my next roam there. If you want ~gudfites~ the best way to ensure them is for everyone to know if they turn up at your place they'll get a fight. If you want your space to be safe don't react to small roaming gangs. They'll soon get bored with not killing anything and go to Low Sec or a different region.

Depends what you want.

Send it to me, I'll make good use of it.

On topic: Dock, form up, refit, bait/scout, loot, smoke, have a coffee, whiskey, chat, call ex girlfriend, clean your nose, fart

Whatever, all depends how it happens and when it happens. As just said above my post, there's not always necessity to run after reds/neuts, some times is good to leave them alone do their thing so they come back often and have fun until the day you undock and have YOUR fun.
The more roaming gangs there are the better it is for null sec small gang pvp, if you start annihilating everything then it's not better than low sec graveyard camping.