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So your ratting/running anoms in null sec a red shows up it local, you do what?

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svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-10-26 07:10:12 UTC
Andski wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
When I sneak past intel scouts and bubble camps, the only way anybody would know I was in the system was through local.

The only way I would know if I were alone or not is through local.

While you make many arguments in favor of a system defender, I have seen enough threads about local to know that if removed, both sides of the equation gain and lose equally. Nobody is really getting screwed over or given an advantage over another.


Admittedly in such previous threads everybody can agree that the D-Scan needs work if local were to be removed.


it's almost as if you can't simply do three things

1) open map
2) click 'npc kills'
3) set destination


Yep, thus, increasing the risk.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-10-26 07:11:43 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Yep, thus, increasing the risk.


more like "increasing the risk to a level where you'd have to be absolutely stupid to take it and you're absolutely better off eating that 10% income hit and doing your thing in hisec"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-10-26 07:12:53 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Make up? Lol

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.


considering that I've never heard of a 'teamspeak local alarm' or been around when one of these is active, well, you're just making things up

NPC alts making things up, shocking!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-10-26 07:13:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Touval Lysander wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Funny to see the null bears running in here proclaiming they have to deal with risk. Lol

It's more like we want to continue to have roams and there still being targets to kill, not have to deal with a game where there are no more targets because everyone has moved their PvE gear to highsec

You sure that's why there's no targets?

Does blue-blue-blue from north to south along the entire western side have much to do with it? .

Considering I live in the southeast, no.

scalding creek coalition - the ultimate place for if you want lots of blues
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-10-26 07:14:14 UTC
Andski wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Yep, thus, increasing the risk.


more like "increasing the risk to a level where you'd have to be absolutely stupid to take it and you're absolutely better off eating that 10% income hit and doing your thing in hisec"



Fine, then go to highsec and leave 0.0 for the rest of us Lol

Oh and thanks for reaffirming your carebear stance.
Ch3244
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-10-26 07:14:39 UTC
uhhh nothing, i lose more profit by going to station everytime someone comes in local than i do just ignoring it and getting blown up on occasion.
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-10-26 07:15:34 UTC
Andski wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Make up? Lol

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.


considering that I've never heard of a 'teamspeak local alarm' or been around when one of these is active, well, you're just making things up

NPC alts making things up, shocking!



I love goons, spam, lie and cheat, all is fair in war I guess, including to deny usage of bots, kk not ratting bots but it is still a bot.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#88 - 2012-10-26 07:15:46 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.

Gawd. Even I, the greatest maker-upper in Eve-O's horrible history wouldn't make this one up!

Sorry, svenska, you're sorta pretty but would be much better suited with blonde hair.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-10-26 07:15:52 UTC
Andski wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Says the impossible to war dec alliance unless you are ultra rich...


yeah 500m is "ultra rich"

man those dudes with carriers must be ballin'

500m, that's like two abbadons

only the ultra rich could have a warchest like that
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-10-26 07:17:34 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.

Gawd. Even I, the greatest maker-upper in Eve-O's horrible history wouldn't make this one up!

Sorry, svenska, you're sorta pretty but would be much better suited with blonde hair.



I am not lying, either you are or you didn't know, now you do.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-10-26 07:17:42 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Fine, then go to highsec and leave 0.0 for the rest of us Lol

Oh and thanks for reaffirming your carebear stance.


I'd still be in nullsec because, as I've stated before, I don't depend on ratting for ISK. Even if I did, I'd still be in nullsec because I'd move money making alts to hisec.

Tell me why nullsec being a desert full of dudes who only log in for fleet ops (since there are no targets for roaming) while funding their PvP with hisec alts is a much better scenario than a nullsec where dudes fund their PvP in nullsec, thus providing targets for roams. Then I might actually take you seriously!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#92 - 2012-10-26 07:19:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
You sure that's why there's no targets?

Does blue-blue-blue from north to south along the entire western side have much to do with it?

All the targets are DEAD!

They left. Got killed. Smashed. Rolled. Stomped. Wiped Out. Evicted.


"nerf successful alliances!"

+1

This ^^^ a thousand time this.

Actually. NO.

Soon you won't be so successful. The ones that come to kill you will be the successful ones.

BUFF successful alliances!!!

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#93 - 2012-10-26 07:19:56 UTC
Andski wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
When I sneak past intel scouts and bubble camps, the only way anybody would know I was in the system was through local.

The only way I would know if I were alone or not is through local.

While you make many arguments in favor of a system defender, I have seen enough threads about local to know that if removed, both sides of the equation gain and lose equally. Nobody is really getting screwed over or given an advantage over another.


Admittedly in such previous threads everybody can agree that the D-Scan needs work if local were to be removed.


it's almost as if you can't simply do three things

1) open map
2) click 'npc kills'
3) set destination




If I can't do that, then I am not the only one, because I have ratted and hit numerous exploration sites with multiple waves in systems that are deserted most of the time and nobody shows up. I spent 2 months in a system chock full of goodies and saw nobody else.

When I was alone, I was 100 percent sure I was alone. Too easy.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#94 - 2012-10-26 07:20:22 UTC
Andski wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Fine, then go to highsec and leave 0.0 for the rest of us Lol

Oh and thanks for reaffirming your carebear stance.


I'd still be in nullsec because, as I've stated before, I don't depend on ratting for ISK. Even if I did, I'd still be in nullsec because I'd move money making alts to hisec.

Tell me why nullsec being a desert full of dudes who only log in for fleet ops (since there are no targets for roaming) while funding their PvP with hisec alts is a much better scenario than a nullsec where dudes fund their PvP in nullsec, thus providing targets for roams. Then I might actually take you seriously!



You fund pvp by tech moons and many of your members already do highsec alts, I want highsec nerfed anyway hopefully at the same time.

Buff incomes in nullsec and lowsec for individuals doing anoms and mining for instance while nerfing highsec like even removing all level 4's, take away local at same time and you got what EVE should be!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2012-10-26 07:20:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Yep, thus, increasing the risk.


more like "increasing the risk to a level where you'd have to be absolutely stupid to take it and you're absolutely better off eating that 10% income hit and doing your thing in hisec"

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#96 - 2012-10-26 07:20:58 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.

Gawd. Even I, the greatest maker-upper in Eve-O's horrible history wouldn't make this one up!

Sorry, svenska, you're sorta pretty but would be much better suited with blonde hair.



I am not lying, either you are or you didn't know, now you do.

Yes I am lying. You're not even sorta pretty.

Though, that alarm thing got me thinking. Shields? Armor? Hull maybe?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#97 - 2012-10-26 07:22:38 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Andski wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Fine, then go to highsec and leave 0.0 for the rest of us Lol

Oh and thanks for reaffirming your carebear stance.


I'd still be in nullsec because, as I've stated before, I don't depend on ratting for ISK. Even if I did, I'd still be in nullsec because I'd move money making alts to hisec.

Tell me why nullsec being a desert full of dudes who only log in for fleet ops (since there are no targets for roaming) while funding their PvP with hisec alts is a much better scenario than a nullsec where dudes fund their PvP in nullsec, thus providing targets for roams. Then I might actually take you seriously!



You fund pvp by tech moons and many of your members already do highsec alts, I want highsec nerfed anyway hopefully at the same time.

Buff incomes in nullsec and lowsec for individuals doing anoms and mining for instance while nerfing highsec like even removing all level 4's, take away local at same time and you got what EVE should be!



Make resources finite and there will be PVP too.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-10-26 07:23:14 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Though, that alarm thing got me thinking. Shields? Armor? Hull maybe?


i hear there's a bot that alerts you when your shields, armor or hull are below a certain threshold

haven't found it sadly :(

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-10-26 07:23:48 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:

I am sorry but I have sat on teamspeaks of many 0.0 entities including the CFC and if you want to deny the usage of local alarm bots that's fine, but I know better.

Gawd. Even I, the greatest maker-upper in Eve-O's horrible history wouldn't make this one up!

Sorry, svenska, you're sorta pretty but would be much better suited with blonde hair.



I am not lying, either you are or you didn't know, now you do.

Yes I am lying. You're not even sorta pretty.

Though, that alarm thing got me thinking. Shields? Armor? Hull maybe?



What they do is make or put an alt in local of their ratting system, then use a script over coms that every time someone not blue enters it sounds an alarm over comms usually a channel made up on TS with that char in it and run it 24/7. So once you do PVE in that system you sit on TS on that channel and afk until you hear alarm and warp of.

It is just one good reason for removing local.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-10-26 07:24:03 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
You fund pvp by tech moons


while I'm a director, I don't have personal tech moons so, no, my PvP isn't funded by tech moons

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar