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Simple question to all the high sec miners out there

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Carlton Foster
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-26 01:23:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Carlton Foster
Come Retribution, how will having a bounty on your mining character effect your mining? Will it change how or if you mine?

I'm just curious how the new bounty system might effect mining in high sec.
Nanatoa
#2 - 2012-10-26 01:24:58 UTC
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2012-10-26 01:27:40 UTC
It will effect mining by the uneccessary server load of miners rushing to the forums en masse to spill their tears upon it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2012-10-26 01:37:47 UTC
Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Carlton Foster
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-10-26 01:41:26 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?


I am aware of how kill rights work.

My question is specific, not general. I am asking that if you as a high sec miner get a substantial bounty on your mining character, how will this effect your high sec mining? I'm not really talking about every miner in EvE getting a bounty.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#6 - 2012-10-26 01:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Who are these mystical people that are going to put large enough bounties on miners to matter? You know a bounty doesn't give people kill rights, right?

No but it will make ganking profitable.

OH NOES.... Did I just say that out aloud?

THREAD WARNING:
First miner to type a response more than 10 lines will have a bounty placed on them!
First nullmoanbear to type a response more than 3 lines will have triple bounty placed on them!

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Theangryhobo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-10-26 01:46:10 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
In addition to bumping, come Retribution we will start placing bounties on any miners refusing to buy a mining permit.
Don't say you weren't warned


Now the only question is, how large shall the bounties be? After all, bumping has been such a profitable venture thus far, I'm sure we can splurge a bit.

That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is.

.

Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-26 01:52:46 UTC
Theangryhobo wrote:
That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is.


Miners will mine themselves for your bounty.

Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. Lol

How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway?
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-10-26 01:54:44 UTC
It needs to be a Billion, or your just not proving that it's worth the investment.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#10 - 2012-10-26 01:59:02 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Theangryhobo wrote:
That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is.


Miners will mine themselves for your bounty.

Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. Lol

How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway?


That won't work come retribution.
Herr Hammer Draken
#11 - 2012-10-26 02:01:14 UTC
I am liking this retribution very much.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#12 - 2012-10-26 02:01:43 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:


THREAD WARNING:
First miner to type a response more than 10 lines will have a bounty placed on them!
First nullmoanbear to type a response more than 3 lines will have triple bounty placed on them!



I think you should place a "triple bounty" on me, because assuming you dont mean the chocolate bar (i hate coconut) then I'd love to see how much money you waste on me.You, like most players on EVE-O forums lately, are out of kilter in your thinking compared to the reality of most situtions. At best your suggestions lack reasoning and at worst I suspect you make bad suggestions on purpose. If I had to give advice to yourself or any of the other bad posters with bad ideas out there it would be to clue yourself up on game mechanics and actually take part in what you're talking about before suggesting changes,

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#13 - 2012-10-26 02:06:40 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


THREAD WARNING:
First miner to type a response more than 10 lines will have a bounty placed on them!
First nullmoanbear to type a response more than 3 lines will have triple bounty placed on them!



I think you should place a "triple bounty" on me, because assuming you dont mean the chocolate bar (i hate coconut) then I'd love to see how much money you waste on me.You, like most players on EVE-O forums lately, are out of kilter in your thinking compared to the reality of most situtions. At best your suggestions lack reasoning and at worst I suspect you make bad suggestions on purpose. If I had to give advice to yourself or any of the other bad posters with bad ideas out there it would be to clue yourself up on game mechanics and actually take part in what you're talking about before suggesting changes,

lolz. No bounty. Everything you said made sense.

Except for what you said after "I think"....

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-10-26 02:08:40 UTC
If people are stupid enough to bounty me, I will farm it off. If they bounty ships I actually fly, they can try and blow them up.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#15 - 2012-10-26 02:08:56 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Theangryhobo wrote:
That does it. 500 mil ISK bounties it is.


Miners will mine themselves for your bounty.

Hop in a shuttle, gank with an alt, profit. Lol

How does one get one of these 500mil bounties anyway?
Excellent idea! In order to collect that bounty by killing your own shuttles, you'll need to kill about 170,000 of them.

Who put the goat in there?

non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#16 - 2012-10-26 02:14:48 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Lets all put bounties on each other and see who can figure out, which ship is the best to use, to get the best return back, when killing yourself, with your alt. Is there a best ship to use?
Because it's 20% of the ship value? Doesn't really sound like it'd be easy to remove the bounty yourself.

Do you really want to waste isk on a bounty that you probably wont be able to get back? You'll just be giving isk to other people. I guess a corporation could make a game of it. CEO places a bounty on a miner and the first in the corp to kill that miner gets the bounty. If the CEO kills the miner, he'll just get his own isk back. If he places more than 20% of the value of the ship on as bounty, I don't think he'll get it back. (Edit: I mean the amount of isk over 20% of the value of the ship.)
What?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-10-26 02:28:34 UTC
They're in the process of writting up the multiple threads that they'll be posting on Dec. 4th demanding CCP nerf the bounty system so that only they can use it to stop the evil bumpers.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2012-10-26 02:30:30 UTC
Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-10-26 02:43:55 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave.

Can you explain this further please.

That's a genuine request; not being a smart ass.


What exactly do you mean by "new ways to collect the bounty"?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#20 - 2012-10-26 02:50:56 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Considering that retribution doesn't introduce any new ways to collect the bounties placed on people I sincerely doubt that it will have any kind of meaningful effect on how miners behave.


You need to read the memo: old bounties re paid in full when you pod the target. New bounties are paid out as a proportion of the value of the ship the target loses. That is a new way to collect the bounty.
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