Ships & Modules

I'm not necessarily talking about Cynabals as such, but rather that whole class of ship. Fast moving frigates and/or cruisers with the ability to dictate range. However it usually is a Cynabal, so lets stick with that. Obviously if a Cyna doesn't want to engage, there's not a lot I can do to force them, but I want to maximise my chances of tackling one and holding them long enough for a friendly gang to catch up. I don't care about beating them 1v1; if they see a ship that stands a chance against them 1v1 they'll just bolt. I want to get in, apply tackle and hold them down until help arrives. In that respect, it would also be helpful if the ship doesn't appear to be a threat so that they'll want to engage it. I fly mainly Minmatar but I can retrain if there's a better ship that does what I want.


The qualities I'm looking at are:

- Speed
- Tackling ability
- Tank
- Price (not a major concern, but I suck at EVE so it would help if it were something disposible!)
- Appearence of threat (IMPORTANT! How likely the Cynabal is to engage)

I've written off interceptors as too fragile but if someone can correct me then great. So far my candidates are:

- Wolf: Fast, a lot of tank for a frig but can't apply a full tackle. Cyabal would probably be willing to engage a solo Wolf but it might not survive long enough
- Jaguar / Firetail: Very fast, can apply a full tackle but probably not tanky enough
- Vagabond: Good all round, a bit expensive though and not really fast enough to catch a Cynabal. Cyna would probably just run.
- Stabber: Very disposible, almost as fast as a Cyna, but made of wet toilet paper.
- Stabber Fleet issue: Fast, good tank, but still not really fast enough. Frigs will run, Cyna might engage.
- Rupture: Very disposible, can fit a good tank, neuts and full rack of ECM drones, but not really fast enough.


At the moment I'm looking at getting a Jaguar, and perhaps a Stabber for testing purposes. I can move on to more expensive ships once I know what works and what doesn't.

Problem with a Rapier is they're not likely to just sit there and just let me creep up to them cloaked; they're going to be constantly moving and I'm not going to catch up without a MWD. I also have no idea what sort of tank a Rapier packs.

What links, btw?

vigilant, provided you get tackle

a cyna pilot could engage one if he's confident he'll stay out of web range, get some webs with links and you're golden

Play with the Stiletto, reduced MWD sig is helpful, TD to negate his guns,125s to kill his drones and prayer.

Rapiers.

The bane of all things Cynabal, Vagabond, frigates and, to an extent, Talos and Tengus when you've got friends.

Well, if you are always assuming a certain degree of competency from your oposition, why bother trying to catch anything?

People in their kiting ships sometimes DO like to goof around. Even when they see fleets. With two Rapiers. And probes out. They STILL think they can kite everything and that going at 2Km/s while hitting at 40Km is all they need even against overwhelming odds.

It

http://www.iberians.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17659

is

http://www.iberians.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16887

not

http://www.iberians.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17662

A bonused Rapier at a gate and scoutless small, fast prey, and Bob's your uncle.
The Rapier is a wonderful tool when you need to pin fast things, and that's the best advice we can give, actually.

Bait Iteron 5, web scram and kill it !

The unwanted bastard child of rust-origin might work, perpahps.

[Hyena, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Domination Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Disruptor II

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Barrage S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

The problem there is the med neut that a lot of cynabals fit will ruin your day. They are a bugger to catch, anything that can catch them they can pop easily, anything that can kill them they can run from. Any single-ship solution is always going to be a bit of a gamble.

I'd suggest something specifically fit to just pin one down, something like:

[Caldari Navy Hookbill - Cynabal Tackler]

[High Slots]
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket - (To pop drones)
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I - Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

[Med Slots]
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Capacitor Booster II - Navy Cap Booster 150
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster - Cap Booster 50

[Low Slots]
Gravimetric Backup Array II - (mitigates ECM drone effectiveness to some extent)
Damage Control II

[Rigs]
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Needs max fitting skills. 149/176OH dps. 3480 m/s. Cap stable when un-neuted without using cap booster.

This fit 100% relies on getting in close. Act like a noob. Make him come to you off station/gate, ideally sat in a belt / at celestial. If he drops anything more than 20km from you just warp to next celestial. The idea is to make sure he sees where you go. Rinse & repeat, hopefully he'll think you're running from him, will chase you hoping for a nice faction frig kill and eventually **** up and drop close.


Overheat your mids, dive in close, get tackle, establish a nice tight orbit & hope he's fit with 425's and has barrage loaded. Get your gang in. Make any drones your primaries, especially ECMs.
Stagger your cap injector with his neut cycles, You can usually get the cap booster reload in before he neuts you out and pulls range unless you're really unlucky, but if not you have only 40 - 50 seconds before you lose tackle.

You can drop the ASB for another cap booster and gain the ability to tackle indefinitely until you run out of charges at the expense of popping in just a couple of volleys if things go wrong.

Tested on sisi twice against a friend in a cookie cutter cyna. Managed to get a cap booster reload in both times in before I DIAF, tackle held for about 2.5 mins. ECM drones didn't jam me, (sensor strength 18 with the backup array but down to chance ofc.)

got i hate those damned cynabals bunch of no talent cowards