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Duality Open Period - 26/10 to 30/10 and 05/11 - 08/11

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#61 - 2012-10-26 22:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Panhead4411 wrote:
Okay first off, what is the point of having Bucky, SiSi AND Duality running for Eve if the only one with the stuff for winter is Duality?

Why not just test it on, oh i don't know, the primary test server? (you just might get more feedback that way) This telling ppl to keep switching their Test Server client to the FOTM is getting old. (for those of us who do not wish to suck up the remaining HDD space at nearly 20gigs per client, and you want us to have FOUR!!!!!!

As stated by the devs else where.

Sisi is stuck running the Dust closed beta on a old TQ build. Until Dust goes open beta and moves to TQ it is unusable except for dust interaction testing. Dust also has a tournament running for the next couple of weeks so that transition will not be soon.

Duality is winter deployment stuff that is predeployment state. That means coded it would not normaly get on Sisi is out there for use to test and help guided CCP to make better choices when there is time for them to make changes.

Buckingham is running a TQ mirror for so people can practice for the Tournament that will start in a month. Also its the current Sisi: all code going to TQ gets deployed on Bucky first. Like the suprise last week.

All three servers are important for the growth of the game and I am glade they are up and running.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#62 - 2012-10-26 22:32:04 UTC
Explosive plating does not show the resistances like the hardners do.What?
Will you be showing the cap recharge rate also in the tool tip.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Ellente Fervens
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-10-26 22:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ellente Fervens
Can't see the icons (or list or details) of anything in my inventories.
It tells me how much volume it is taking up and a price estimate for everything.
I cant see anything in my cargo either.
I can see my stuff in the asset window.
have rebooted system, re entered station, set all graphics to high/low.


I can get it by sorting my inventory. But I have to do that every time I switch tabs....
Commissar Kate
NulzSec
#64 - 2012-10-27 02:41:35 UTC
I know it was mentioned before but whats with the music that plays even though the jukebox is paused? It seems to be linked to the Music Level slider.
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#65 - 2012-10-27 03:53:14 UTC
I notice Duality is down. When it returns, is the build with the combat cruiser changes going to be applied, or will we lack them for this open period as well?
Mund Richard
#66 - 2012-10-27 08:13:32 UTC
Hoarr wrote:
I really like the idea of having some information show up next to the target in space. It would be awesome if things like velocity, angular velocity, radial velocity, etc. could be shown next to the target.

It's not like I want to watch internet spacesubmarines when doing a L4 mordus headhunters (~60 ships at the same time?) anyways. Roll

For small-scale PvP (heck, for newbros in L1s!) it would be ofc awesome.
But scaling it, a nightmare.
Currently targeted ships only could work

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#67 - 2012-10-27 09:48:05 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
All the previously announced Ship and Module changes will be up and running tomorrow! That means Support Frigates, EWar Frigates, Exploration Frigates, Combat Frigates, Rebalanced Destroyers, New Destroyers, Combat Cruisers, Attack Cruisers, Support Cruisers, Ewar Cruisers, the ORE Frigate and all weapon and rep changes including Version 2.0 of the Missile changes!

Makes me tired just typing it all. Smile
do the new destroyers have names yet? inb4 caldari boat called the wyrm
The names were just submitted yesterday (and for the ORE frigate as well), they will be included in the next update.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#68 - 2012-10-27 09:51:25 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Nice new notifications. Option to move needed badly. Punkturis says its in work YES.Big smile

Point camera option in Selected items window needs an option for a second selected item so drones and target of the drones can be be both viewed. Location of camera focus needs to be changable. But looks good for now.

New shop graphics look good.

Micro jump drive needs new icon. Timers needs work so they show at all times.

Place bounty button needs to be a diffrent color.

Place bounty amount screen needs a confirmation option.
Top two (damage notifications and camera) to Team Pony Express and CCP karkur. The rest to Team Super Friends and CCP Punkturis. Both teams have one or more dedicated feedback threads.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#69 - 2012-10-27 09:53:35 UTC
Blake Armitage wrote:
1. I'm noticing that there isn't always a space between "damage" and "from".

BTW the new smooth scrolling notification text is so much better than the previous dialogue box.

http://imgur.com/e6ag9

2. Can you add the ability to left/right justify the notification area? My OCD wants to be able to move it over to the left above my chat area.

3. The timer notification for the Micro Jump drive was in the 'old' format. Are just damage notifications going to be updated with the nice scroll text or will all pilot notifications eventually move to this new scroll format?

4. Can the micro jump module flash/blink red like triage modules to let you know that you can't use it? OR add the timer to the tooltip.

5. Good - I can't clear the micro jump timer by docking

6. Excellent - You can now drag items + ships from a active ship cargohold to your station Item hanagar and ships will go into ships, items items. As a hauler this is so so nice.

7. I hope that drones eventually move to be a 'module' as the current drone window is very, very hard to work with.

8. Salvage and abandon drone are far too close on the menu.

9. Cursor when clicking on the 'place bounty' plus button remains on the char screen. I think it should become active in the new bounty dialogue window.
Top two to Team Pony Express and CCP karkur. The rest to Team Super Friends and CCP Punkturis. Both teams have one or more dedicated feedback threads.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#70 - 2012-10-27 10:05:35 UTC
SlayerOfArgus wrote:
I was looking for the salvage drone skillbook and the drone itself but cannot seem to find them. Were they put into this release?

Also, the text for the new crimewatch hangs over just a tad too long.

And could the "point camera to selected item" be moved to the bottom of the box? Having it at the top could pose a risk if you accidently click it and then de-orient yourself while in the middle of pvp.

But I do love the new crimewatch stuff, icons and "safety" feature. Looks to be an awesome expansion so far...
I'm checking with Team Super Friends on the salvage drone and the salvage drone skillbook. Please direct the camera feedback to Team Pony Express, they have dedicated feedback threads.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2012-10-27 10:20:42 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
Okay first off, what is the point of having Bucky, SiSi AND Duality running for Eve if the only one with the stuff for winter is Duality?

Why not just test it on, oh i don't know, the primary test server? (you just might get more feedback that way) This telling ppl to keep switching their Test Server client to the FOTM is getting old. (for those of us who do not wish to suck up the remaining HDD space at nearly 20gigs per client, and you want us to have FOUR!!!!!!
Excellent question, thanks for asking. I apologise beforehand that the answer will neither be short nor simple.

The reason for the multiple test servers is that we are working on multiple releases, and for that matter on multiple games.

Singularity is the production server for the beta of DUST 514. It is running alongside Tranquility with the combined EVE Online + DUST 514 version of Inferno 1.3 whereas TQ is running the same code and same tech stack but with DUST not connected and therefore the DUST code is mostly inert and the DUST components are scaled for configuration test purposes only. Note that I referred to SiSi as a "production server for beta", which is an intermediate step between a test server and a production server, but since people have paid to play the DUST 514 beta then we are treating it much more like a production server.

Buckingham and Multiplicity are then the public and private test servers we use for SiSi and Tranquility; we release EVE and DUST updates to both SiSi and TQ (we then have even more test servers on the staging branch for that code).

Duality is the public test server for Retribution 1.0, scheduled for deployment to both SiSi and TQ on 4 Dec.

Depending on what we need tested then different test servers will be open. SiSi and TQ, as production servers, are always open, but Buckingham and Duality, as test servers, will be open at different times for different purposes.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#72 - 2012-10-27 10:23:30 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Panhead4411 wrote:
Okay first off, what is the point of having Bucky, SiSi AND Duality running for Eve if the only one with the stuff for winter is Duality?

Why not just test it on, oh i don't know, the primary test server? (you just might get more feedback that way) This telling ppl to keep switching their Test Server client to the FOTM is getting old. (for those of us who do not wish to suck up the remaining HDD space at nearly 20gigs per client, and you want us to have FOUR!!!!!!

As stated by the devs else where.

Sisi is stuck running the Dust closed beta on a old TQ build. Until Dust goes open beta and moves to TQ it is unusable except for dust interaction testing. Dust also has a tournament running for the next couple of weeks so that transition will not be soon.

Duality is winter deployment stuff that is predeployment state. That means coded it would not normaly get on Sisi is out there for use to test and help guided CCP to make better choices when there is time for them to make changes.

Buckingham is running a TQ mirror for so people can practice for the Tournament that will start in a month. Also its the current Sisi: all code going to TQ gets deployed on Bucky first. Like the suprise last week.

All three servers are important for the growth of the game and I am glade they are up and running.
All correct, except SiSi is running a current TQ build and SiSi and TQ are both updated with the same set of changes (this entails that all DUST code is also going to TQ).

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2012-10-27 10:24:20 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Explosive plating does not show the resistances like the hardners do.What? Will you be showing the cap recharge rate also in the tool tip.
=> Team Pony Express' feedback thread.

BTW, thanks for all the help Salpun! Big smile

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#74 - 2012-10-27 11:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
Finally for now: We beefed up Duality's hardware significantly from last weekend and hopefully there won't be any hardware-related performance issues. But if there are extended Time Dilation or lag issues then please let us know. If we don't respond here on the forums (it's the weekend after all) then feel free to ping me, Paradox and Goliath on Twitter and draw our attention to relevant forum posts.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance
#75 - 2012-10-27 12:14:23 UTC
The new Gallente destroyer has six turret hard points. It was advertised as having five with a utility high. Error or stealth change?
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#76 - 2012-10-27 12:29:13 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
The new Gallente destroyer has six turret hard points. It was advertised as having five with a utility high. Error or stealth change?
The feedback thread for the new destroyers is here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158156&find=unread but I've forwarded this comment to Team Game of Drones.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

croakroach
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2012-10-27 16:23:42 UTC
In highsec, shooting a suspect (can flipper) causes loss of security status (safety was also turned on full).
Can also shoot suspect in POD which causes further loss of security status, no concord reaction, and results in kill rights.

This intended or an issue?
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-10-27 17:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Pertuabo Enkidgan
I wasn't sure where to post this but here I go;

Are the turret audio final? Some of them sound somewhat similar and could use more distinction. They're also missing that extra *umpf*

By similar I mean the hybrid medium have little auditorial difference between them. They have the same-ish startup, which sounds like a laser from a starcraft 2 battlecruiser. If you heard them in a fight you wouldn't recognize which one is which. This also counts for medium/large blasters/railguns, and Medium & Large Lasers. When a audio clip finishes there is no noticible audio recoil, like when it's charging down for the next volley.
Idea; you could make the tachyon/or large lasers sound something like a Reaper Laser from Mass Effect 3.

Man it's difficult to explain audio stuff...damn.

Haven't tested projectile turrets yet so can't comment on that.

TL;DR each turret class, like a tachyon or a heavy beam laser, need to have their own sound-niche-uniqueness, if that's even a word, and are lacking that extra ''punch''
Euro Krise
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-10-27 22:37:51 UTC
Damage Notification:
This smooooooth scrolling is like a nervous blinking banner on a hacker website.
Please let us switch it to continuous mode or somethin else, after 15minutes ive got a sensoric overflow....

Ive done a horde in drone space with carrier and some sentry drones.
ive got after 7 respawn in the horde no aggro on the drones, this might be faulty..

sincerely Krise *g*
Kenshi Hanshin
WinterFel
#80 - 2012-10-28 03:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenshi Hanshin
I was just on Duality before downtime. I was wondering if and when the new destroyers will be available to be flown? As I would really like to be able to test them myself! In addition, I tested the missile changes. The missile changes are good in my opinion. So I want to communicate my support and approval for those changes, even as a Caldari pilot.

Thank you very much for your time and effort!
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