EVE General Discussion

And here I thought I was curing stupid...

This deserves to be quoted. I've never come across truer words. Although I will say that there are those that play who simply like the concept of a space game like this with all that it has to offer. What they do is pve and only engage in pvp in defense. They are often called carebears by the very people described above. This isn't the only MMO I've played that harbered this type of crowd. Aion is a fine example of a game that had a mass exodus of players forcing drastic changes to be made to the game but too late. Now it's playerbase is compareable to that of EVE.

A game with so much potential but some companies are determined to try and make pvpve work when the crowd this attracts is both a bad one and a small one.

It actually IS rather surprising. It's not human nature to be evil, quite the opposite.

The ability to have a small area in your life where you can live out your more evil sides without facing consequences just tend to bring out the worst in people who dont dare to face said consequences in real life.

/edit: I'd love to see how this game would be 2 days after alot of nullbears got their wishes granted, and Concord was retired. Good luck buying your cheapish doctrine ships, and especially the trit needed to build your SC's in an environment where it's quite hard to justify setting up an efficient mining op. :)

Greed, selfishness, etc are big parts of human nature. The fact that they manifest the way they do in EVE isn't surprising at all. As for "bringing out the worst in people"... eh, get over it. It's a video game, and many of the ways to advance in it rely on doing it at someone elses expense.

As for nullseccers, I don't think many want highsec completely abolished and turned into nullsec, they just understand that having an area with absolute safety is damaging to the dynamics of the game, so when changes (or suggestions/whines) are made that look to be heading that way they resist them.

As for cheap ships, etc... bears need to get over themselves. "b b but without us ships would be expensive", yeah, great, but at the same time the highsec bears are responsible for the ridiculous plex prices

Why people cling to this ignorance is just, wow.

You do not know any such thing, and that's CCP fault. The majority of characters are in high sec, but that says nothing of how the individual account holder feels. I've got 4 accounts with all slots filled, SEVEN of my characters are in Empire space right this moment and i do high sec incursions everday, yet I'm not a "high sec player" by any kind of choice, it's simply the easiest way to do what I need to do right now.



1st of all, screw that guy, seriously.

And what is wrong with a game BY wolves, FOR Wolves? Does everything have to be happy happy fun time? And if the players are so horrible, why are all the carebears coming to and staying in the game (again rhetorical question, they are mostly masochists and malcontent rebels without a cause who want change for the sake of change).

i'm not the most wolfy person (I do some pew pew pvp, but no ganking or bumping and not much gate camping at all), I spent last night killing Blood Raiders in anomalies and hauling stuff. But I understand and support the establish nature of the game I'm playing and seriously wish the EVE haters would screw off somewhere else.

The whole point of this thread is that I see no value in this argument. Would you support EVE becoming a medieval-fantasy MMO if it meant we would get our player-base to 2 million subscribers? According to your logic, you would.

All I'm saying is, why not just create a new game from scratch then?

Of course I wouldn't ;)... then I read posts where people use both of the meanings in an attempt to prove Eve is really just a PvP game (read sig). That's the real problem I have. Too many posters are trying to argue Eve is a PvP (read sig) only game where everything else is just fluff. There are tons of players who don't PvP (read sig) and don't want to... it would be news to them that Eve is a PvP (read sig) game.

So I ask the question of you as I have asked of the others: If a new player comes onto the forums asking to learn PvP, what skills do you suggest to them? That's what I thought. Thanks for playing.

you made a mistake. independent of goonswarm efforts 0.0 sec area is not called "high sec". You (still) should have said "0.0 sec bears"

for your pleasure

I hate when crybabies use the word "forcing" when it something is actually optional. You know who you are and you should be ashamed.

pipa porto