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"Forcing People to Leave the Game" and "Forcing a Specific Playstyle"

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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#1 - 2012-10-25 06:01:54 UTC
Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

EVE is clearly fueled by competition and cannot survive without it. You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models.

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2012-10-25 06:08:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Praetoxx
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A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#3 - 2012-10-25 06:20:23 UTC
The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone. Smile

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#4 - 2012-10-25 06:30:43 UTC
Belligerent undesirables get out

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Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
#5 - 2012-10-25 06:36:25 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Belligerent undesirables get out


Need helping finding the door?
Azumi Zimu
#6 - 2012-10-25 06:40:38 UTC
"Progress" in this game to me is training skills. I can do that while not logged in at all.

Problem?

Keep up the busywork tryhards Cool
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#7 - 2012-10-25 06:50:48 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Belligerent undesirables get out


Need helping finding the door?
No, but the damn thing won't open.

Who put the goat in there?
pussnheels
Viziam
#8 - 2012-10-25 07:27:14 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

EVE is clearly fueled by competition and cannot survive without it. You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models.

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.


Another they don t play my way i demand CCP nerf them

But yes this is a game about competition, but competition on all levels and every scale
But it also create alot of different playstyles so deal with it
This isn t your game and if you don t like it how other people play i suggest you go and play another game or create your own game company

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Josef Djugashvilis
#9 - 2012-10-25 07:58:19 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

EVE is clearly fueled by competition and cannot survive without it. You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models.

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.


Most original post of the year thus far?

This is not a signature.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2012-10-25 08:00:48 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

EVE is clearly fueled by competition and cannot survive without it. You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models.

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.


Another they don t play my way i demand CCP nerf them

But yes this is a game about competition, but competition on all levels and every scale
But it also create alot of different playstyles so deal with it
This isn t your game and if you don t like it how other people play i suggest you go and play another game or create your own game company

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.
Azumi Zimu
#11 - 2012-10-25 08:06:08 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Not that I log in...

Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds Cool
Lutin Ballista
Ballista Investment Corp
#12 - 2012-10-25 08:07:52 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. .


Perhaps, shock/horror they play the game for different reasons to you. Why should your way be the right way?

Everyone lobbies for the game to be changed, amended etc to favour their style of play. The problem for CCP is that they are trying to balance everyones interests and one minor change in one direction nearly always has an adverse direction on the opposite side.

Just my thoughts
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2012-10-25 08:11:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


Don't lump all us hisec bears together, some of us accept and appreciate the numerous play style opportunities that are presented in Eve.

We need a new term for hisec bears that aren't utter carebears, carebears is too vague and the only true ones are the ones that want a completely safe PvE only environment. I don't count myself amongst this group of imbeciles, even though I am by the current definition a carebear.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Obenov
Rio Grande Industries
#14 - 2012-10-25 08:17:11 UTC
Yes hopefully everyone left who plays EVE doesn't pay for it, who needs money anyway?
Josef Djugashvilis
#15 - 2012-10-25 08:21:31 UTC
This thread should be locked for lack of content.

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ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-10-25 08:21:41 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
I was forced to post.


And I was forced to edit your 'response'. Not exactly a constructive post by any standards. You know better.

ISD Praetoxx Lieutenant Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#17 - 2012-10-25 08:24:52 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


Don't lump all us hisec bears together, some of us accept and appreciate the numerous play style opportunities that are presented in Eve.

We need a new term for hisec bears that aren't utter carebears, carebears is too vague and the only true ones are the ones that want a completely safe PvE only environment. I don't count myself amongst this group of imbeciles, even though I am by the current definition a carebear.

You mean like "industrialists," "miners," or "missioners"?

Those terms are not mutually inclusive with "carebears."

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2012-10-25 08:44:09 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Not that I log in...

Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds Cool

We did it for profit. Our words were mainly in responce to the bears who campained to remove our playstyle. We infact spent most of our time giving out fitting advice to avoid being killed by us. Unfortuntly, the bears did not listen and managed to convince CCP to more or less kill off our playstyle.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-10-25 09:14:14 UTC
Azumi Zimu wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.


You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Not that I log in...

Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds Cool

Those stuff are well within the game's mechanics and vision, promoting gameplay including those outside the boundaries of the game itself; it's one of the most prominent characteristics of Eve and one of it's biggest selling point. Unlike hisec miners who whines that this game doesn't accommodate their 'style' of playing, then cries and complains to CCP to change the mechanics so they can enjoy a game that's less and less sandbox-y, just because they don't want to play the game the way it was designed to be. Sad

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#20 - 2012-10-25 09:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Those stuff are well within the game's mechanics and vision, promoting gameplay including those outside the boundaries of the game itself; it's one of the most prominent characteristics of Eve and one of it's biggest selling point. Unlike hisec miners who whines that this game doesn't accommodate their 'style' of playing, then cries and complains to CCP to change the mechanics so they can enjoy a game that's less and less sandbox-y, just because they don't want to play the game the way it was designed to be. Sad

But CCP gave players the power of choice, so they should be able to remove the ability of player choice if they so choose. It's simple logic. :smug:

Reminds me of this.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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